Dear Friend and Reader:
There are many ways to do astrology; up until recently, however, you learned most of what you found out from books, which were usually written in the distant past. You consulted the book for ‘what something means’.
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Today, however, we live in an era where there are many newly-discovered planets, and most of these are not written about in books. Their discovery, as astrological factors, is an active process. Learning astrology is more of an adventure than it’s ever been, and the ‘authoritative’ ideas of the past are not the only reference point; they cannot be, since so much is changing. History, mythology and astrological traditions, I believe, are all factors that need to be acknowledged and worked with, and then we can explore our impressions of the moment in an authentic way, in an open dialog.
Over the weekend, I invited Planet Waves subscribers to share their comments about the ongoing aspect Varuna square Eris. This is a meeting of two very slow-moving points (both slower than Pluto) orbiting our Sun. One was discovered in 2000 and the other in 2005, so they are pretty new. For the most part, mainstream and most alt astrology ignores them. These points don’t appear in books. But they are living, vital factors, and in our moment of global chaos and our unusual need to rise to the occasion of both a world in transition, and a self in transition, we need all the help we can get.
I’ve published the responses in today’s subscriber edition, which I’m sharing with all readers. What you have here are their direct impressions of life and astrology (in that order). It’s truly a privilege to be able to publish this, in part because I’ve gained so much understanding from the thoughts of the people for whom I am usually the writer.
This is a long article, too much for most people to read in one sitting. But it’s composed of many vignettes, some of them being a few sentences and others several paragraphs. From this, I think you’ll see that we enjoy a unique relationship with our subscribers, whose ideas (many of which arrive in short, spontaneous emails) actively help me co-create what you read in Planet Waves.
What you’re about to read has opened up a world for me and is — I assure you — something unique in all of astrology. Through this process we are delineating two points that are in an ongoing discovery, and which speak to the times in which we live, while we’re living them.
Thank you to all who contributed. If you sent me an email and it does not appear in the issue, please remind me and I will post it to the comments area below. New comments welcome! Here is the link to the edition.
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Yours & truly,
Cracking up here: “Old Master” vs “Ascended Master” !!
=Getting my art and my new age mixed up lol!
Be; ya, cool isn’t it?
I have No Idea whatsoever where that packet of papers I have came from – with no identifying information – just about 20 pages of things like invocations and mantras – and all in the language of the masters – a language I seemed to “know” in my dreams when I was a child – I still remember those dreams – and when I heard the language again in recent years I was able to identify it as the old language of the masters. If only I could get into state to be able to understand and speak it! well, maybe we are all headed that way. But so interesting when “items” like those papers come from “nowhere”. I’ve never seen them before yesterday yet there there were in a stack of “crap” I was shredding. Perhaps an Old Master planted them right where I could find them…..:)
Happy Reading! -for me too. There’s a lot on that/those sites and more eh?
-Linda
Unrelated/related. Sometimes I’ll just take a random little trip on my natal chart and see where that goes. Tonight I noted something… Loosely (but all withing 10) hovering around the IC: Quaoar, Ixion, Mars. Pop up to the MC and there’s North Node, Sedna (Taurus), Black Moon Lilith (Aries)… with Saturn and Eris conjunct earlier in Aries. In the ninth house, in equal houses (another little trip). Very male opposed to very female, yes? In light of conversations here… Would this be fairly common for an age group? Or any grouping?
aword,
I’m so excited about your “find” and grateful that you passed it on to me. So all those “symptoms” we’ve been experiencing are just our junk DNA getting upgraded to where we can say goodbye to the 3rd dimension and all this polarity.
How ironic and timely too is the symbol for the recent New Moon with it’s coiled serpent, to the God Quetzalcoatl who descends the stairs of the pyramid. I learned this god is also associated with Venus and Mercury, who will be together in the days leading up to joining Jupiter at/on the “11” portal of May. That gives me chills!
I was quite unaware that the Mayans had a supreme god (goddess?) called Hunab Ku or “Mother Womb” who is located at the GC, and that its symbol is a butterfly. Well, they both represent change, the butterfly and the dragonfly, and they are both beautiful and so it works for me. Thanks so much for the links. I have a lot of reading to do!
be
Here’s another one – the pix furthest right on top is most like my diagram, but still has only the “body” of the butterfly not the log wings – and doesn’t contain the calendar date blocks.
http://www.joyfirepublishing.com/Joyfire_Mayan_ST_Science.php
Be, if you’re around – I stumbled on a xerox’d packet of papers this morning as I sorted stuff, (that clearing we’re doing…:) and I have no idea where it is from (cover sheets are torn away). But inside was a page titled Hunab K’u and the Mayan Calendar. The drawing of the mayan calendar in black and white shows a diagram of a figure uncannily like your dragonfly.
I’ve found links for Hunab K’u online – and I guess the picture is meant to resemble a butterfly – but I cannot find a picture anywhere like the one in this packet which is of the calendar itself wherein the “wings” are enlongated.
Anyway, maybe some one else mentioned this before and I missed the post – I just thought you might find it interesting.
Here’s one of the links:
http://mayanprophecy2012.blogspot.com/2009/07/hunab-ku-galactic-butterfly-mayan.html
Carrie – Spot on. Very insightful post.
Carrie,
More testimonial; my parents too fall into said category – always silent, now just bridging into their 80s their choice to live silent and docile has now caught up to them in a different way and in different ways. Mom’s always bright and active mind is gone due to years of commonly prescribed pharmecuticals and dad going down that same merry path but not without first finally wiring his book (congratulations on that) – which is basically nonsensical gibberish.
So. Yep. Death s/he has many forms.
There is so much pain, it is hard to see. One must feel their way.
There is so much anger, the fire feeds itself.
The battle has begun.
Things that need to burn out need to burn out or be quenched at last.
Really weird times.
The first picture I found (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varuna) depicts Varuna running at full gallop to the left aboard his mythic transport, Makara (half alligator/half aqatic) whose head is held high. It is a mighty pose.
The second picture I found––of Eris––(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eris_%28mythology%29) has her running at full gallop to the right.
A collision course or perhaps a full-bodied sexual meeting about to happen. Are we ready for such a full-bodied joining?
(A lot of our “training” has been anything but full-bodied. We could duck for cover but even better, chose be part of the energy, become THAT full-bodied.)
And yep, the wise elders of Sleeping Beauty, should have known that the thirteenth witch/fairy could not be banned from the party.
The news, today, escalates the nuclear disaster to the highest level, level seven. People, we have been lied to. We knew it even when they pointed their fingers at us and said “calm down.” The times of giving up power to an all-knowing father figure government are over. It is the 150th birthday of the Civil War.
If we and our succulent planet survive this mess, we must dismantle nuclear everything and big government everywhere, once and for all. We need models where everyone cooperates actively and collectively and with vision that gets acted upon.
I, for one, can’t wait for regional self-governing communities to declare themselves.
Carrie, I see the same things you’re seeing. The 80-year-olds in my condo complex, who run the place (condo board), are obviously on their way out, and their ways of thinking are obsolete, and no longer work in the present. Their physical conditions tell me they will soon be leaving this planet, and for me, it’s a lesson in letting go and moving on.
Regarding the folks in their early 60’s: Here’s a generation that seems to define themselves by their work. If they retire, who will they be?
Also, these previous generations simply cannot answer our questions. We truly ARE on our own, in this new era, figuring out what works for us. The old rules and traditions simply do not apply to us. Our conditions, our present, and our future, seems to have no precedent, whether we’re talking about money, relationships, anything. A lesson in getting to know ourselves as individuals, asserting who we are, and are becoming, and being brave.
Fe: Thanks and I totally forgot recommending that book.
Len: Thanks, they are often called the Silent generation.
Someone (Skabungus) on a message board wrote this about them:
“Well, I empathize with your dilemma. My Silent parents go on and on about the unending struggle they endured to scratch out a living, raise two boys and make their way in the perilous world that was 1950-1970 America. They go on to say that I just need to work as hard as they did, endure the hardships that are, by their estimation, “nothing compared” to what they struggled through. They take care to constantly remind me that if I just apply myself, and learn to manage my money better, everything will work out……….because……….after all, “there are so many more opportunities now than when we were raising children.”
This sickens me. My mom and dad (born ’34 and ’36 respectively) had decent childhoods and left high school to find a multitude of well paying jobs. Both made it into white collar positions by time I was born (1961) They bought their house from a relative for “what he still owed on it”, gas was $0.20/gallon, homeowner insurance was cheap, auto insurance was cheap, and full paid medical insurance and a hefty pension was part and parcel of their employment contracts. To boot my dad got 8 weeks paid vacation, a company car (for personal use as well) and the luxury of working out of the home.
Now, as I work in a upper mid level position in state government (which I won the right to work in because I have 19 years of diversified experience a masters degree and several certifications making me the best qulified candidate out of GET THIS 200 applicants!) I find it hard to make ends meet. Unlike many GenXers, my wife and I have no credit card debt, no car payments, no cable, no cell phone bills and no extravagant tastes for entertainment. (some of our friends insist we must be closet Amish)
Raising two kids and with a third on the way the cost of another mouth to feed (something my parents see as a big expense) is nothing compared to affording the gas to get to work, insurances, utilities, etc.
With aging boomers refusing to retire (I work with a lot of people with over 35 years in the agency) my prospects of moving up in pay are slim for the near term future. *Sigh* we’re scraping by financially but remain in the black, we have a good home life and consider ourselves lucky. However, I find my perception of the current reality at odds with that of my parents.
I don’t begrudge my Silent parents their better job market, better incomes, lower cost of living and more free time as they traveled their coming of age and midlife phases. I’m even glad they are well heeled enough to take 2-3 cruises a year, have a house up north and one in Florida and lots of spending money in their elderhood.
What I do find really hard to swallow is their outright denial of the fact that family life (economically and socially) is much more “hardscrabble” now than it ever was when they were parenting. Even a nod to say “yea, it must be hard for parents these days” would be a bit of balm.
I’ve already been told by mom and pop that, should we have a government shut down or layoffs and things get “difficult” with finances, that they expect “you’ll have to apply yourself and work it out on your own just the way we did”……….because your mom and I are on a fixed income and cant afford to help you”. This was a preemptive announcement on their part since my wife and I have never asked anyone for cash and not once mentioned we might need a loan to get through a rough spot.
I was thinking to myself that this may just mean I have selfish or self absorbed parents until I heard the experiences of several friends who wheathered the dot com bust and received no help (not even a room in the basement for a month) from their Silent parents. Seeing this thread and reading the opening post, I’m beginning to wonder if the whole Silent Gen views life the way my parents seem to see it.
Overall I notice Silents exhibiting:
~~ a sense of entitlement in what they “have achieved” (even if it was their parents and older sibs that did the achieving). A strong sense of identification with the GI’s and the successful conclusion of the last secular crisis.
~~ A perception that, despite what is daily exhibited on the news, economic and social conditions are the same OR EASIER now for parents and faimilies compared to when they were raising kids in the 1960’s and 1970’s.
~~ A built in alarm system that warns them away from anyone (children and relatives included) that exhibits needs. I’ve noted my parents and their age-similar friends are generous to a fault when such generousity is not needed, but, when their help is really essential they retreat.
What gives?”
This so encapsulates what I have heard other adult kids of these Silents have dealt with and now that generation is dying off or going into institutional care this year like I have never seen it. My grandmother (who will be 97 this year) is in better health than my Dad and so many of his generation. Makes me think that astrology may have the answer to that.
Carrie:
You know, I tracked down and purchased that book “Generations” that you recced me a few months back. I keep going to that like I go to reference Tarnas and “The Astrological Mandala”. But your deft description encapsulates things I’ve been trying to write since looking at the book. Great post.
Eric: Thank you for going to this substantial effort. May you find appropriate blessing returning to you.
Mystes: Thank you for the valuable information and insight.
Carrie: Your closing question is a good one. Will look into that.
What I’ve got on this recalls that Varuna is the eidolon for the hydrological cycle, including the freshening of water from the oceans into clouds and precipitate. At 21º Cancer, Varuna would be the *recipient* of Eris/Aries-energy, no?
If so, that aligns rather startingly with the emergency in our hydrological cycle. Our rainwater is where contamination is showing up most dramatically (UC Berkeley is reporting rainwater 180 x higher than Federal ‘safe’ levels). That is, Varuna/hydrological cycle is ‘receiving’ Eris/nuclear –that is, very hot, very cast-off— fallout.
I’m still puzzling over what can be done about this. I can’t go into close retreat right now — too many family/social/moving things afoot, but will do so in early May. Answers forthcoming.
Hang in there…
M
Thanks for posting this. The first response about the 84 year old father’s response to his granddaughter’s unwed pregnancy reminds me of something I have been wondering about for many years.
:::::warning, generalizations ahead:::::
The following are based on years of personal observation and extrapolation.
That 84 year old is part of the so-called “Silent Generation.” They were kids during WWII and they had the Generation Jones kids. The Silents (white ones anyway) as a group were fortunate; they raised their kids during the biggest economic boom in the USA, they are the group who could start a job with little education, work for the same company for 30 years, and they are getting the excellent health-care and pensions from their old employers. Their kids (Gen Jones) and the Boomers (kids of the WWII Greatest Generation) didn’t get the long-term employment or the pensions or the benefits the Silents got. So the Silents had it all and their attitude toward their kids and grandkids is “Me, MY money, MY life.” The Silents were the “Me” generation folks; many of them helped foment the women’s movement which valued male career paths as the highest default model for all genders, they did the self-actualization stuff, they have bumper stickers that say “We are living long enough to be a pain to our kids” and “we are spending our children’s inheritance.” Many of them divorced in their 30’s, damaging their kids. They won’t help their kids or grandkids financially or even support them emotionally the way their Depression parents did for them. Yet for some reason, they have internalized some pain (their mothers worked during the war and they were raised “seen and not heard”?) so they turn their pain onto their kids and grandkids and everyone else.
My 80 year old father ignored me and his grand kids while being married to his second wife. Both of them didn’t come to my or my siblings’ weddings, or my older brother’s funeral. They didn’t pay any attention to my kids (or the adopted son’s kids). Now that my step-mom is dead, my Dad suddenly finds himself alone with over $30K in savings and an income of $3000 a month for just himself (we have six in my family and we live on way less every month) and he is amazed that I have come to help him. It is because secretly he knows he ignored me and his grandkids (especially compared to his mother who not only helped him raise me and my siblings but made it a point to see us, be involved with us and still helps us raise her great-grand kids). He tells his mother (my grandmother) that he doesn’t know HOW we do it on such little income. When I tell him we are over $200,000 in student loan debt, he lowers his head and says nothing. He KNOWS we have it worse than he. His generation would rather give to some rabid church which would deny women’s rights than help his own grandkids. My husband’s parents (the same age-cohort, the Silents) are also ignoring him and his kids. I mean they choose to spend very little time with the grandkids. We have seen that generation do it over and over again and it is a sad thing that a group so well-off and who had things so easy, has no compassion for their children or grandchildren or ANYONE else.
That generation, the Silents, has a lot to answer for in their self-centeredness and fear of women. My kids say “When those 80-something folks die off, the world will be a better place.” How sad that they feel that way but it is understandable. They have been ignored by their grandparents on BOTH sides, all of whom are Silent Generation folks so it makes sense that they feel like that generation is selfish, has been ruining the earth, has been unkind to their Boomer and Gen Jones parents, has ignored them, and has been unwilling to invest in them via education spending or investment in programs which help living children. The Silents’ kids and grandkids really have it worse than they did and they refuse to admit it or even care about it. I would not want to be them right now; their karma must be awful.
They are so intolerant of difference; different races, women, different sexuality, different cultures (as witness their fear of illegal immigration) and different religious beliefs. They are a fear-based group and their control of this country has gone on long enough. It would be interesting to see the astrology of their generation and what it says now. I have also noticed that this year, a lot of people in that generation that I know either personally (my step-mom and my dad) or locally (in my neighborhood) or publicly (like Liz Taylor) have died or been institutionalized this year…and we are only in April. Two people on my street died this year, both of them in their early 80’s (Silent Generation). Another in that age group (he lived across from us) was placed in an Alzheimers home, and my Dad’s wife died (she was 81) and he (who is 80) must be placed in assisted living with me assisting him with his finances and legal stuff. A couple of streets down, an 82 year old died and several of my husband’s family friends (all in their early 80’s) have died this year. Then there are the public figures who have died who are in their late 70’s or early 80’s. Makes me wonder what’s in their astrology that is causing so many of them to either die or be rendered incompetant? Maybe part of the coming (actually ongoing) transition has to do with them being rendered powerless? I mean it is so prevalent that people I know all over the country (via FB and e-mail) are commenting on this trend.
Just something I have noticed and all generalizations are acknowledged and recognized in this comment.
Eric:
The comments posted are truly inspiring to read for their clarity and depth. They feel to me like expressions of people coming into their own power. Good venue for this, our little Planet Waves tent!
Thank you to all for sharing, and to Eric for putting together and putting out t/here.