Love, fear and politics: Question One

My friend Amanda Painter works as a phone canvasser for Maine People’s Alliance, a progressive activist group. She has lots of stories about her fundraising phone calls, which sometimes turn into consciousness-raising experiences. I’ve encouraged her to tell some of the stories here — since this is grassroots politics, the real thing. No punditry, just actual human beings talking about the intersection of existence with the political process. Here is Amanda’s first article in this genre.

Amanda Painter

Tonight I spoke with Barry, the confused but well-meaning hippie. The call began typically, with my giving our standard rap explaining why we believe people should vote down a proposed tax-related referendum. Barry asked several genuinely interested questions about it and our stance, then asked what else is on the ballot this year. I told him a few of the issues my organization is taking a stance on, mentioning Question One only in passing.

Question One is a referendum to repeal a law legalizing same-sex marriage in Maine. The bill was passed by Maine state legislature this spring and signed into law by the governor. A confusing but high-profile referendum question aimed at repealing this law has been placed on the ballot this fall, mainly through the work of conservative religious groups here. I hadn’t yet had a chance to secure a donation from Barry, so I was reluctant to potentially jeopardize it by discussing another issue — especially that one. Barry had another agenda, immediately asking me what my organization’s stance was on Question One.

I told him we advocate a ‘no’ vote, based on a basic platform of human rights. With a fair amount of hemming and hawing, Barry expressed that he hadn’t made up his mind on this one, and held what he himself described several times as some opinions that might simply be “ignorant” and a little “redneck,” but hoped I might be able to explain a few things to him. I finally told him to go for it. Barry explained that despite being “an old hippie,” having friends in San Francisco, and having no problem with people being homosexual, he was afraid of a few things.

He was concerned that going so far as to legalize same-sex marriage would “promote” this lifestyle choice. He asked why there needed to be marriage when there were legally recognized domestic partnerships. Couldn’t we just extend things like being able to inherit a partner’s estate to those partnerships? He was afraid that going this far might encourage kids to just try being homosexual for fun, although he was aware of the idea that there may be a biological component to being gay. And finally he asked about the phenomenon of women suddenly deciding they’re lesbians and hating men after twenty-some odd years of marriage (a friend of his had been through this), and wanting to know how it is that people can “turn gay” after so many years of being heterosexual.

It was a lot to take on, but he seemed to be asking out of a genuine desire for some answers, or at least a glimpse at another perspective. I have to admit, I kind of skirted the whole ‘domestic partnership vs. marriage’ debate since it had some potential for argument, but did mention how awful it would be to have been in a loving relationship with someone for twenty years and then not be able to make decisions about the partner’s medical care if he or she was critically ill. As for the idea that legalizing same-sex marriage would encourage kids to experiment with homosexuality, I pointed out that there is still a lot of angst and fear surrounding coming out to friends, family, etc. in many places; it’s not something most people put themselves through without a lot of thought. More to the point, I reminded him that the portrayal of gays and lesbians in mainstream media is far more ‘promotional’ than a law allowing same- sex marriage could ever be when it comes to shaping kids’ impressions these days.

As for people ‘turning gay’, I explained that it’s more often the case that men and women in these situations generally have homosexual feelings from a very young age, but ignore and stuff them down out of fear and social conditioning until the pressure and unhappiness get to be too much; like continually stuffing clothes into a suitcase until it finally just bursts open all over the place. I also made an analogy to growing up in a certain religious tradition and realizing late in life that it didn’t fit, or simply getting married and having kids because ‘it’s what people do’, and then realizing down the line that you’ve been unhappy for years, even without homosexuality as a factor. Barry seemed to accept all of my explanations, but still hemmed and hawed a bit, repeating some of the things he’d mentioned. I realized everything he was saying began with “I fear,” or “I’m afraid,” and had a touch of the irrational to it.

The ol’ light bulb flashed on. “You know Barry, I just want to point out that you’re saying the word “fear” a lot. Making decisions from a place of fear usually doesn’t get us anywhere and makes us feel stuck. When we try to live from a place of love, things seem to open up and work a lot better. At least, that’s how I’m trying to live my life. Sorry to get all philosophical on you!” I said with a laugh.

“That’s the best thing you’ve said yet!” exclaimed Barry. “You’re right; making decisions based on fear never works for me. But if I make my decision based on my love for people, then I vote ‘no’ on Question One, because that means gay couples who have been together twenty years can take care of each other when one is in the hospital, right?”

I confirmed his statement and he told me that he’d pretty much switched his vote because of our conversation and that he should probably give me some money since I’d spent so much time talking to him. We completed the donation process, and then Barry confessed that his girlfriend would be happy, since she had been mad at him for thinking about voting ‘yes’. I managed to catch myself and refrain from asking him if that meant he was going to ‘get a little’ tonight. I like to think that he did.

10 thoughts on “Love, fear and politics: Question One”

  1. frannyfan makes a very important point about cultural perspectives in ‘politicising’ movements. Usually, proselytisation takes place from ideologically dominant positions, toward arguably less ‘normative’ (but still significant) ones. Presumably, Cherokee values have not entered into the mainstream sufficiently to inform the kind of ‘debate’ that can shape reality politically and I’m sure that frannyfan would probably have mixed feelings about that.

    It is refreshing to see that people can convert OUT of fixed, ideologically-driven views, as well as into them. However, there is a difference between an interpersonal dialogue involving peers of roughly equally power to shape conditions for citizens of our globe and any outcomes of such dialogue that may subsequently stride confidently along the corridors of power. ‘Liberal’ positions undoubtedly give more scope than ‘conservative’ ones, however, they can become fixated in their opposition to the views they find oppressive; such that power stays on the throne in an oppressive way.

    Replacing one ideology with another – even if there is greater theoretical merit, seems to miss the fact that the issues that matter to people in their localities are far more important for human wellbeing and contentment than whether one ideology triumphs over another.

    Currently, in the UK there is a high profile debate about the British National Party in respect of democratic processes versus censorship. A whole raft of ideas and strong emotions abound that lock people into their ideological boxes. There is truth in virtually all positions and yet folk become incapable of recognising any in their ‘opponents’ position. Those who became ‘heretics’ in church history became so because none of their observations were countenanced, so they became increasingly frustrated and then extreme.

    It matters less what a person’s beliefs are, than how they get on with their neighbours. We have largely forgotten this. The ability to live fruitfully with those we are in close proximity with, would be a better indicator of societal health than a liberal ideology triumphing over a conservative one. Getting to the place where we could work together on such realities as a ‘global commitment’ would further our collective interests much better than the quest for centralised power (that will NEVER be definitively won.)

  2. I know gay couples and have gay couple relatives who have been together as long as I have been married, or even longer (37 years). Being with someone that long is not about sex, but it sure as heck means they are family and that they love each other and care what happens, and spouse benefits should apply when one of them passes away, or when one goes into a nursing home.

  3. Many thanks to Amanda for sharing how to do the right thing at the right time (not as easy as she made it sound). Thanks, of course, to Eric for spreading inspiration.

  4. I love this: ‘Making decisions from a place of fear usually doesn’t get us anywhere and makes us feel stuck. When we try to live from a place of love, things seem to open up and work a lot better.”

    I have an upcoming family gathering that includes my 6 siblings – ranging from Christian right, to conservative, to cautiously centrist to liberal. And my very liberal 79-year old Mom (Aquarian).

    The above quote will be very useful for my family gathering. Thanks for sharing – I will bring some basic ‘Course in Miracles’ concepts and Compassionate Communication and at least stay sane.

  5. take two — my first attempt at posting hasn’t materialized.

    christinef — thank you!

    i have to admit, i nearly fell out of my chair when the guy said it was the best thing i’d said yet; he was so genuinely excited. i felt like i was going out on a bit of a limb when i made the fear vs. love comments — it woudn’t have worked with most of the people i talk to on a given night. for me, it was a great reminder of what can happen when there’s a real rapport and i trust my instincts, and more importantly, when i stay in *conversation* instead of jumping to the defensive; stay open to curiosity and really listen.

  6. thanks christinef!

    i have to admit, i nearly fell out of my chair when the guy said said it was the best thing i’d said yet — he was so genuinely excited, and i’d felt like i’d gone out on a bit of a limb when i made the fear vs. love comments. it wouldn’t have worked with a lot of the people i talk to on a given night. but sometimes when there’s some real rapport & i trust my instincts, amazing things happen. for me, it was an important reminder to stay in a true *conversation* without jumping to the defensive and arguing; to stay open to curiosity and really listen.

    — amanda

  7. Thanks for the great post. I both teared up and gigled while reading this. I was touched by such a real life example of individuals moving one another and reminded that the sacred is a dimension not separate from that which is mundane– a reminder I truly appreciate today.

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