Vaclav Havel, Kim Jong-il

Two of the most noted world leaders of our era died this weekend — one of the darkest and one of the most enlightened. Kim Jong-il, the modestly-titled “supreme leader” of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (that is, North Korea, serving from 1997 to 2011), was attacked by his heart and died Saturday. The next day, Vachlav Havel died. He was the last president of Czechoslovakia and the first president of the Czech Republic, serving from 1989 to 2003. It would be hard to imagine two more different global figures, or examples of humanity.

Vaclav Havel, from his official website -- which lists his personal email address.

They left the planet as the Sun made its annual approach to the Galactic Core — that is, aligning with the center of our galaxy, an aspect which was very close over the weekend and is exact today. Other notable aspects include Uranus on the Aries Point (which happens once per 84 years), the conjunction of Vesta and Neptune (which happens every four to five years) and of course, we’re early in the era of the Uranus-Pluto square. These men were both revolutionaries in their own right. In identifying your place on the political spectrum, you might ask yourself who you identify with more.

Havel was the guy who brought Czechoslovakia out of the Soviet era and into the modern world. He was a world leader, but was also a widely-regarded playwright and nonfiction author. I cannot think of another prominent national leader who came from a prior career in the theater. He was Libra with Aquarius rising and a Gemini Moon, born Oct. 5, 1936. His birth time is not sourced but it’s published as 3 pm, and he was clearly the type who might have told an astrologer his data. The most notable aspect in his chart is a grand cross in the mutable signs — those restless, sensitive, ‘tell me both sides of the issue’ signs that are so often prominent in the charts of intellectuals.

The grand cross includes the Moon, Chiron and the South Node in Gemini, opposite Jupiter in Sagittarius (which are aligned closely with the recent eclipses); and this is square Neptune in Virgo opposite Saturn in Pisces. Said another way, he has both Jupiter opposite Chiron and Saturn opposite Neptune — he was doing that thing that Rilke talked about, stretching himself over the contradiction until it made sense.

On July 4, 1994, Havel was awarded the Philadelphia Liberty Medal. In his acceptance speech, he said: “The idea of human rights and freedoms must be an integral part of any meaningful world order. Yet I think it must be anchored in a different place, and in a different way, than has been the case so far. If it is to be more than just a slogan mocked by half the world, it cannot be expressed in the language of departing era, and it must not be mere froth floating on the subsiding waters of faith in a purely scientific relationship to the world.”

Fashionista Kim Jong-il in 2011.

As for Kim Jong-il, we don’t know all that much (well, the NSA might) because North Korea is the last remaining vestige of the Iron Curtain. He was a throwback to the days of communist cult leaders, complete with all the titles. In April 2009, North Korea’s constitution was amended to refer to him implicitly as the “Supreme Leader”.[8] He was also referred to as the “Dear Leader,” “our Father,” “the General” and “Generalissimo.” Officially he was General Secretary of the Workers’ Party of Korea, the ruling party since 1948; Chairman of the the National Defense Commission of North Korea; and the Supreme Commander of the Korean People’s Army, the fourth-largest standing army in the world. In addition, he was the Exalted Chairman of the People’s Democratic Parent-Teacher Association.

He was reputed to be everything from a piano virtuoso to someone who could personally control the weather. Some believed that his choice of clothing influenced world fashion trends. That is plausible.

According to a 2004 Human Rights Watch report, North Korean government under Kim was “among the world’s most repressive governments”, having up to 200,000 political prisoners and no freedom of the press or religion, political opposition or equal education and health care: “Virtually every aspect of political, social, and economic life is controlled by the government.”

We don’t know for sure what year Kim Jong-il was born, but it was either 1941 or 1942. I spent time with both charts this morning and decided that the 1941 chart was a bit more like him, though the point could be debated. In the 1941 chart, we have a tense (and rare) alignment of Jupiter, Saturn and Uranus in Taurus, which would give him a pretty high opinion of himself and a heck of a lot of inner conflict. The next year Jupiter has moved into Gemini, which would have made him a bit easier-going and more inclined to show up at the production of one of Havel’s plays.

I guess it takes all types — but it tells you something about the world that more people recognize the name Kim Jong-il than recognize the name Vaclav Havel.

Charts of Vaclav Havel and Kim Jong-il. (Click on image for a larger version).
Charts of Vaclav Havel and Kim Jong-il. (Click on image for a larger version).

11 thoughts on “Vaclav Havel, Kim Jong-il”

  1. Well, if he supported the war, then I take it all back.

    He’s just another ass. There is no redeeming genocide. Maybe I’m a fucking genius but I wanted to puke the first second I heard that an invasion of Iraq was even possible. I did not, for one second, support the war in Afghanistan. I grieved the entire month I knew it was coming, knowing that it was a total lie — about the Uzbekistan oil pipeline, Enron, etc.

    I am so damned sick of this.

  2. Eric:
    Thank you. Among your many talents, the knack for recovering a resonant chart from insufficient data (as you did with the late Kim Jong-Il) is among the most awe-inspiring. Thank you for providing the chart for him and the great Vaclav Havel.

    Vaclav Havel has long been a hero for me, being half Czech myself. The mundane points on his chart are astonishing but not surprising for a humble but resourceful beacon of sanity for humanity. Yes (and thank you), Amanda, you are correct that he (like many other people of good faith – as Eric pointed out in the weekend edition) got sucked into supporting the malicious mis-adventure of the United States in Iraq, probably because he was provided with fraudulent intelligence information. Nevertheless, we need more leaders like him, who can embrace the paradox and remain whole.

    Both of these men came to Earth the same way we all do. Both of them in times of great fear (which was no doubt part of their shadow material). A big difference is how each responded to that fear before transitioning away the same way we all do.

  3. Cesaria was one of the few musicians I’ve seen who was better live than on CD…a truly incredible personality! I saw her for the first time while I was living in Berkeley many moons ago, and when she came out with her bare feet and a cocktail, I knew I would be following her around wherever she sang!! Over the years I made a point to see her at different venues around the country, and while she was always amazing to see and hear, the Berkeley show remained my favorite. She leaves such a rich musical legacy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbN8bk9ljQw

  4. From yesterday’s NYTimes news flash about Havel:

    “He was his country’s first democratically elected president after the nonviolent “Velvet Revolution” that ended four decades of repression by a regime he ridiculed as ‘Absurdistan.'”

    Absurdistan??? lol!

    unfortunately, i don’t think Absurdistan fell. the regime simply shifted its borders and rulership to include several other countries, including the US.

    i remember my high school latin teacher telling me that a playwright had been elected president of Czechoslovakia, & thinking that was the coolest thing in the world. unfortunately, Dem Now! just reported that Havel supported both U.S. wars in Iraq. i guess no one is perfect, esp not once they get into politics…

    oh, and eric:
    “In addition, [Jong-Il] was the Exalted Chairman of the People’s Democratic Parent-Teacher Association.”

    you are wicked. i just laughed my ass of at that!!!

  5. Thanks, Fe. First heard the news from you. So sad. They’re playing her on the radio right now, and giving a brief synopsis of her life – such an amazing voice.

  6. Cesaria Evora, famed Cape Verdean fado singer also died this weekend. These leaders are in good company. Though I believe Cesaria died of loneliness more than any other disease.

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