Planet Waves FM: Venus in Libra, 9/11 and the Gardasil Girls

22 thoughts on “Planet Waves FM: Venus in Libra, 9/11 and the Gardasil Girls”

1. Good one. I just wrote to them — thank you for that information.

   How insane — the vaccines are ALL contaminated with the rDNA — that is, toxic genetically modified crap. Biohazards injected into young bodies, along with paranoia about sex. Here it is in the words of the organization that made the discovery:

   Gardasil Patient Product Insert Stated No Viral DNA’s in the Vaccine.

   In fact, Merck’s Gardasil™ Patient Product Inserts stated that there is ‘no viral DNA’ in the Gardasil vaccine. That is until April 2011 – when the line was glaringly absent from U.S. product inserts. 3.

   The European Medicines Agency on line literature still states: ‘Gardasil is an adjuvanted non-infectious recombinant quadrivalent vaccine prepared from the highly purified virus-like particles (VLP’s) of the major capsid L1 protein of HPV types 6, 11, 16 and 18. The VLP’s contain no viral DNA; they cannot infect cells, reproduce or cause the disease.’ 4.

   SANE Vax Inc.’s research found that 100% of the 13 samples tested were contaminated with viral HPV DNA residue, including a synthetic construct for HPV11 major capsid protein L1 gene, a recombinant DNA genetically engineered specifically for manufacturing of the Gardasil vaccine. All DNA residue discovered was firmly attached to the insoluble aluminum adjuvant in the vaccine, requiring a new protocol for detection.5

   Dr. Lee firmly stated: “Based on medical literature and some of the FDA/Merck’s own publications, adventitious (coming from an outside source) DNA in an injectable protein-based vaccine may increase the risk of autoimmune disorders and gene mutation which may lead to malignancies.”

2. The results of independent lab testing show that the Gardasil vaccine is contaminated with rDNA of two HPV strains.

   http://sanevax.org/sane-vax-inc-discovers-potential-bio-hazard-contaminant-in-merck%E2%80%99s-gardasil%E2%84%A2-hpv-4-vaccine-2/

3. Rabies is a three year shot, so far as know.

4. oh —

   and we don’t hear as much about it, but there is a second hpv vaccine, according to wiki:

   “Two vaccines are available to prevent infection by some HPV types: Gardasil, marketed by Merck, and Cervarix, marketed by GlaxoSmithKline. Both protect against initial infection with HPV types 16 and 18, which cause most of the HPV associated cancer cases. Gardasil also protects against HPV types 6 and 11, which cause 90% of genital warts.”

   . . .

   “Both vaccines are delivered in three shots over six months. In most countries, they are approved only for female use, but are approved for male use in countries like USA and UK. The vaccine does not have any therapeutic effect on existing HPV infections or cervical lesions. In 2010, 49% of teenage girls in the US got the HPV vaccine, while in comparison around two-thirds of teens have gotten shots for meningitis and DPT vaccine.”

   um, ***49%***??? wow — that’s half the teenage girls in the country….

   the footnote for that stat in wiki goes here, to an article that quotes the CDC in a news site for the filipino global community:

   http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=720725&publicationSubCategoryId=200

   remarkably the article/ CDC call the vaccination rate as “lagging,” in part due concerns about the vaccination’s safety. somehow 49% doesn’t sound like “lagging” to me…

5. Hi Eric & Everyone,

   hey, I’m sure you’ve already scoped this out, but there’s a ton of biomedical stats/info
   including the articles printed in the NE Journal of Medicine on Gardisil at:
   http://www.judicialwatch.org/gardasil

   as I’m sure you already know, there is a thing called the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) that medical personnel usually use, but anyone can report an adverse reaction from the drug. I encourage all /any to do so!
   you can see the heavy reporting indicated on that website under Press Releases and Documents Uncovered…damn.

   there have been plenty of other FDA approved drugs that have had to be pulled from the market—as was previously seen with COX2 inhibitor drugs (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs) like Vioxx- because of danger danger death- so FDA approved as the end all is bullshit.

   what worries me is that this primarily focuses on young women – so we have young women vs. big bucks. yah. and we are talking big bucks. note that when you google “how gardisil is made” an article from CNN Money comes up emphasizing the billions of dollars to be made…
   “Analysts’ sales projections for this vaccine range as high as $4 billion a year, assuming that state governments mandate inoculation. ” that was 2006..

   one of the most glaring things I see, and one of the key things to look for is how the vaccine is made, as there are different ways. but a lot of the time people are having a reaction to the adjuvant, which are extra ingredients put into the vaccine to “make them work better” by stimulating your immune response.. .greater than just subjecting you to the virus particle- which is enough, right? Gardisil has 225mcg of aluminum added to it. mm.

   if that isn’t enough, looking at the original studies of efficacy, somehow, Merck used aluminum in the PLACEBO as well, which normally has to be SALINE, which is natural. by being able to substitute aluminum in there, it skews the study. Aluminum adjuvant is not a placebo.

   OK I won’t go on. but people need to be able to understand how and should look into how vaccines work, why, the different kinds, all kinds of things. vaccines are a lot more complex than the actual thing they are trying to prevent. esp. with recombinant DNA technology and the vehicle/adjuvants used. lotta weird shit in there. lot weirder than say me kissing you.

   and BTW, your dog and cat DOESN’T need rabies every year, but it’s a way to make money and keep animals registered. most cats and dogs are way over-vaccinated. there are known cancers & miasms that cats & dogs get from being vaccinated too much. think about it- google it.

   anyway, the way to know if You or your Pet are protected is to get a titer. a titer is bloodwork which will show your antibody levels for a particular disease. I’ve used for myself, when someone told me I needed another tetanus shot- I didn’t. and also for my dog- she didn’t either.

   thanks PW – these issues are important and you are commendable for tackling them- it’s important. it’s part of the Future- people banding together and collecting information & standing up and saying Fuck You- quit trying to step all over us from the upper echelons of NonEthics and Greed-

   peace. and Goodwill.

6. Personally, thinking like a pharmaceutical giant, the reason to include a couple of strains of wart protection is marketing. It’s a selling point, a “value added.”

   There is no real public health benefit. Treatment of venereal warts is fast, painless and cheap. The cases rarely get far, but sure — just like neglected splinters, which can lead to infection, gangrene and amputation — they are ugly if they do. If someone is protected against two strains of “low risk” HPV they still have to have GYN exams and are still susceptible to all the others.

   The vaccine has a net negative impact because it gives a false sense of security in a time when people need to be conscious and careful about heir choices — furthermore in a time of rampant, cultivated ignorance about sex. Abstinence only is not merely abstinence training; it’s indoctrination into an antisex attitude complete with many falsehoods about sex and sexuality — and sending kids who ask about masturbation into counseling (rather than encouraging masturbation because it’s fun, easy and safe).

   How about that for STI prevention, with lots of fun and room to relate, grow and mature?

7. right — yes —

   i was *not* arguing that gardasil is worth the risk, or arguing how well it does or does not work. i understand haug’s point & wanted to get a little more data into the conversation on a couple points that i thought needed a little more info involved for clarity. thank you for expanding.

   and as for ‘why vaccinate against low-risk (wart-causing) strains’ if they might not link to cancer? i wonder if it has to do with the fact that they have an obvious effect on visible genitalia? we have a real knot of cultural baggage around all things sexual, after all. and sexual diseases seem to bring out a special level of fear and shame in most of us.

   plus, really bad cases of gential warts that get out of hand are pretty scary — i’d had this described to me by a friend who’s a nurse, and now thanks to the internet, we can do a google image search for “genital warts” and see for ourselves.

   also worth noting (i was reminded of this recently by one of our readers), those 200+ strains of hpv also include those that cause things like plantar warts, which occur on the soles of our feet. so not all hpv strains affect the reproductive organs, inner or outer.

8. Hi Amanda

   The 70% issue would be part of a risk-benefit analysis. It is not an absolute value. It must be seen in context.

   For example, were the vaccine safe, and effective, 70% would be helpful. But if it kills or sickens people, it’s not worth it. However, the larger point is, they really don’t know all of what is going on with this virus. It’s only fairly recently that they discovered the difference between “high risk” and “low risk” strains, and I have heard – no citation – that now some low risk strains are believed to be associated with carcinogenesis. But that is not in the common literature and I’ve never seen it mentioned in the context of Gardasil.

   If the “low risk” strains are advertised as being so safe, then why bother inoculating against them? Why not inoculate against four of the “high-risk” strains?

   What Haug is arguing in her editorial is that because the immune system also clears 90% of cases, and because screening is so easy, and because there are cofactors like drinking and smoking, then we are taking the risks of the vaccine on top of the fact that the body has fairly good natural immunity — which skews the risk-benefit proportion. It is more risk for less benefit.

   Further, we don’t know what this vaccine does to the immune system; we don’t know for sure that it does not cause the very thing it purports to solve. And as Haug argues, we don’t know the actual effect on the cancer rate.

   Second, the duration issue. All vaccinations provide only temporary immunity. How many tetanus shots have we had? How many rabies shots have you given to your dog or cat? The same is true (somewhat notoriously) of smallpox vaccinations — which have a history of not working at all.

   As one article states,

   The other critical fact confirmed by our historical experience with smallpox vaccination is that individual differences in response to vaccination are extremely important. One size most definitely does not fit all. It is clear that although the smallpox vaccine was effective in conferring a temporary immunity in some individuals, an unknown number of other individuals were probably harmed by the vaccine.

   The only immunity that is lifelong — and safe — is that which comes from the immune system itself, which vaccines are designed to subvert and irritate. The fact that there is an admission of the even potentially short window of efficacy admits that the issue exists, and the further admission that the duration is unknown only underscores the lack of knowledge about this whole issue and a product that is being injected into millions of people.

   In a phrase, the question is, “where’s the data?”

   ef

9. Interesting stuff here….

   I almost did not comment due to my lack of factual data…..however a memory caught me in a moment….I worked for the Health department in Florida assisting the gynecologist that came in once or twice a week for womans health related issues….mostly responding to abnormal pap smears…..in which the doctor would do a colposcopy( a procedure that removed the abnormal cells from the cervix) or leeps(another procedure that removed a larger portion of the cervix in a higher stages of abnormality) ….paps that come back abnormal actually have stages relating to the severity of possible cancer. All can be attributed to HPV.(to my knowledge). Now…..pap smears can save lives……HPV sucks….I have been diagnosed…and thank the Great Spirit that the cervix can regenerate back to healthy tissue…thus the importance of yearly or biyearly checks if abnormal….

   It would be great to think that Gardisil could infact cure this or prevent the onslaught…..however it is much like the flu vaccine and trying to isolate strains is like trying to find a needle in a haystack….but who am I….

   Eric, any idea how many strains of HPV are actually out there? I am not up on the recent statistics……or maybe no one knows? IDK

   Peace and Love,

   Patricia

10. eric —

    i finally had a chance to listen, though i’ve been reading the comments all along. i have a couple questions/points to clarify.

    1. although gardisil only covers 4 out of 200 strains of hpv, the two high-risk strains (high risk are the ones linked to cervical cancer) it covers, 16 and 18, account for about 70% of the cases of cervical cancer linked to hpv.

    no, that is still not 100%, but it’s a pretty big chunk linked to just 2 strains. i am not an advocate for the vaccine, i just thought that bit of info should be in the mix since part of your point was weighing risks vs benefits (and who is risking/benefiting). i understand there is significant risk of a sense of false security among women who think, “oh, i’m getting vaccinated against hpv — i’ll be protected,” and don’t hear or remember that the vaccine is only partial coverage.

    2. i wanted to double-check your assertion that the vaccine “is temporary, is transient.” i know i read an article in the past year that you sent me that noted that we don’t know if gardisil lasts longer than five years because there has not been enough time for a study to track results beyond five years.

    if you are referring to a different article, please post it here. but if i’m remembering correctly, my understanding is that it’s a little premature to claim that the vaccine fades away — but definitely important to emphasize how little we know about its long-term efficacy, because it has not been around long enough.

    as i said, i am not in favor of the vaccine; and i have not gotten it myself. but the issue is an important one to me — so thank you for including it in your podcast!

11. Letter to Christopher Hayes, a host on MSNBC. I sent a similar email to Rachel Maddow.

    —

    Hi Christopher,

    It’s Eric Francis — we have corresponded before.

    I saw your Sunday morning broadcast. Once again the Bachman/HPV/Gardasil thing came up, and once again the issue was treated politically, with no real fact checking into what Bachman said. Yes, she did not have her data correct, as she was going on hearsay — but she is correct about the issue: there is a problem with Gardasil. There are many problems in fact, ranging from lack of efficacy of the vaccine to reports of severe, adverse health effects. Did anyone check into the case she made reference to? Just because she is Michele Bachman does not make her automatically wrong.

    It’s not enough that there are studies saying it’s safe — we would need to tear apart the methodology and cohort data, and you know that can’t simply be proven: the longterm studies do not exist yet. What we do have are many thousands of reports of sickness and 89 reports of death that are treated as urban legend. Meanwhile there is an uncontrolled experiment going on involving the nation’s teenagers.

    Since when do we just trust a pharmaceutical manufacturer, or any industrial corporation, at its word? Especially when it’s making millions off of sex-phobic mania, and working through the likes of Perry to proffer its stuff?

    The reports of sickness and death deserve attention, but now both the left and the right — including the WHOLE lineup at MSNBC — is on board with how effective and safe Gardasil is. In all sincerity, I was as mortified as I would have been had I heard the likes of Maddow saying that dioxin is safe.

    Here is an editorial from JAMA (reprinted from a Norwegian medical journal. This discusses the risk-benefit issue, without going into the reported problems but strongly alluding to their existence.

    http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/302/7/795.full?home

    Here is a citizen website with some young people who want to make a documentary after one of their sisters got sick. Take a look at their appeal for funding to do the documentary.

    http://truthaboutgardasil.org/

    I have to tell you, as someone informed on this issue, it’s been damned horrifying watching the left go after Bachman merely because she’s a fruitcake and had not backed up her statement with data. In fact the results of this vaccine are neurological.

    The corporate line is always, “the connection is not proven,” but there are reports of a problem. When you smell smoke and call 9-1-1, the operator does not say, “prove that there’s a fire.” They send the fire department out to see. That is what we need to do here. For we in the press, the proper thing to do is interviews and research, not to merely dismiss the claims of a problem.

    Yours truly,

    Eric Francis

    Investigative reporter
    Editor, Planet Waves, Inc.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Francis

    CC: Beth, Carol and Amanda Planet Waves editors.

12. Really fascinating podcast today Eric!

    As with many folks, I’ve had a number of bad experiences with vaccines and other meds side effects. When I worked at a vet clinic we told every dog and cat’s “parents” to monitor the animals AT LEAST 4-6 hours after vaccination in case of side effects because any animal can have a reaction to a vaccination and some of those reactions can be pretty severe. That’s not just certain vaccines, that’s ALL vaccines. The summer I worked at an ER clinic we had a number of dogs and cats have to come in for emergency treatment due to bad vaccination reactions. If we’re telling that to dog and cat owners why not parents? Then they might not spend on vaccinations.

    Also, not all medication’s possible reactions and side effects are listed. I was on Minocycline for two years and then one day developed severe Rhumatoid arthritis in my hands. Within a couple of days I could not bend my fingers. I went to a battery of doctors and they all had no idea why I had this severe and fast onset of Rhumaotid arthritis. Finally, I got in with a Rhumatoid arthritis specialist, she took one look at what meds I was taking and said “Oh, it’s your Minocycline, it’s a rare side effect so they don’t list it in the drug pamphlet.’ I stopped the meds and sure enough in a couple of days the arthritis was gone. When I mentioned what had happened to my Dermatologist (she was the one who had subscribed Minocycline for my acne), she told me that it was a side effects of the medication but, as the previous doctor had said, was such a rare side effect that it’s not listed in any of the drug’s material and doctors are not instructed to tell patients about it because it’s so rare. BUT THEY KNEW IT WAS A SIDE EFFECT. I basically got a hard lesson, yet luckily one I recovered from, that only the common and convenient side effects are listed.

    Anyway, my two bits on my personal experiences with all the nasty side effects that aren’t talked about.

13. The mainstream media is a mixed bag — the whole thing. Even Maddow balked on this story (i.e.,, screwed the pooch) — politics took precedent over science. It was too convenient to bash her, but the connection between Gardasil and Perry can be fact checked. It’s easy for these people to throw up the ruse that “vaccination is good” — but any idiot knows this is not a tin foil hat issue. But it’s one that keeps getting crowned in Renyolds Wrap.

14. I always worry a bit about any attitude toward a health problem that could wind up being a roundabout way of blaming the victim. Do this, be that, think this way, blah, blah, blah, and then ‘this’ (the horrible eventuality) won’t happen, won’t be so bad, whatever. I can see the victim of the health problem being guilted or guilting themselves for not getting better. I associate this kind of thinking with the bargaining stage in the grief process. It was one of the most frustrating stages of grief for me when my husband got colon cancer in 2000. I was lucky that he survived, but the internal bargaining with the universe that I did in my own mind during that terrifying time almost drove me completely around the bend, and I don’t think it had any effect on the outcome. I think what I learned from that situation is that sometimes shit just happens and it is what it is. Not that positive thinking and varieties of alternative or traditional healing won’t help, but sometimes nothing prevents the worst and that’s just the way it is.

    I was disgusted to see a woman last night, however, on the news hyping Gardisil and the dangers of HPV with Brian Williams. I felt like I was watching a paid advertisement happening in the context of what should have been a legitimate news program, which, of course, I was. There was no effort to present alternative views or research or actual information about the dangers associated with the vaccine. Again, mainstream media lets us down. Madison Avenue, gone viral.

15. “Would the absence of negativity in that thought form eliminate the need for it to manifest physically?”

    I would say a resounding YES. I have seen that over and over again; the more open and accepting parents and society are about sex, the less the kids seem in a hurry to have irresponsible sex and the more careful those kids are about having sex when they do actually have it. Fear and scare tactics and ignorance are NOT the answer; it never has been. A real great place to start is in stopping the shame about our bodies, our sexual urges, and about masturbation.

16. “I don’t think that an abstinence approach is going to work. In teenagers and for that matter in people of many other ages, erotic impulses are too strong to resist, and resisting them is dangerous, not to mention boring and all that fun lost. IMO forcing a stop to sex, or even attempting to, has considerable negative effects in terms of personality development. Young people need to relate to one another, they need to explore, and we need to understand that there are risks inherent in any sex.”

    The synchronicity of this is amazing; a day or so ago I wrote in my blog about teens and sex and the ways we don’t serve teens well by keeping them ignorant or telling them to abstain. All that fear and ignorance isn’t helping them; education, openness, and a positive attitude about masturbation would.

17. Another twist: California could potentially authorize schools and other agencies to vaccinate girls as young as 12 without parental knowledge. While I am not against young adults being able to circumvent the need for parental approval relating to their choices about sexuality, this raises a whole host of issues… there is an article about this bill, which has apparently cleared the CA state legislature, here (the tone is somewhat alarmist but then again, the possibility is alarming and I haven’t seen it reported anywhere else): http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/09/16/vaccine-wake-up-call-for-parents-your-children-are-being-taken.aspx?e_cid=20110916_DNL_art_1

18. Like Mandy, I learned about HPV in my 30’s when my GYN told me that I needed surgery. I was sad, confused, and angry, because I thought that I knew about my body and std’s. It was the first time I had heard about HPV. This was back in the early 90’s.

    Thinking back, I remember telling other women about my experience and saying that if men had been experiencing medical problems such as the possibility of creating cancer through HPV that you could bet we would know more about it. At the time, I heard that about 50% of sexually active people would test positive.

    I took it as another assault on women. Probably similar to the insurance company not providing certain services like birth control.

    I am not sure what I would do about the vaccine. So many questions and endless possibilities to answers. I like the thought of promoting masturbation. I also wonder what would happen if the thought of sexuality was no longer negative. Would the absence of negativity in that thought form eliminate the need for it to manifest physically? Abraham/Hicks factor. No negatives manifested.

    Guilt is pretty insidious.

19. Oh, my, these articles and comments were just what I needed today! My poor little head and heart were confused to be defending something Michele Bachmann brought up while disagreeing with just about everyone else. These times, they are confusing.

    Eric, all I can say is a resounding YES to what you’ve written in the blog post and in your comment. Thank you also for that link to the editorial in JAMA — what a breath of fresh air to read a lucid commentary.

    There’s so much going on with our beliefs, and we seem to be so cut off from understanding them and how they create the life we experience. Or maybe those are just my beliefs about reality, not reality itself. 🙂

20. I am sorry to hear that you went through this, Mandy.

    We have a lot to learn about HPV, how it behaves, and why it behaves the way that it does. Clearly it is not the same for everyone, if 90% of people clear each strain the virus within two years. There are also cancer co-factors, such as smoking and alcohol. In addition, there are energetic co-factors. I have not met anyone with a persistent HPV infection who was not struggling with some form of seemingly intractable guilt that influenced their lives and their sexuality in other ways. While this has not been proven by science, it’s something that I have observed. There is also a relationship to sexual abuse, particularly in young people, which is in turn associated with self-blame and guilt.

    I think that the most viable route for resolving the issue is homeopathy, because it works on so many different levels, but focuses on the underlying miasmic energy that is at the root of whatever is ailing a person.

    Medically, HPV is a puzzling issue, and there is not enough devoted to studying it. many doctors are plainly ignorant about it, and have nothing useful to tell their patients (and they don’t want to admit the contradictions in the officials story). I have read that laser treatment, introduced in the mid-1980s, spreads the virus on the same subject — in other words, it makes that case worse.

    I believe that the Gardasil campaign is both a mass-scale marketing effort and a sales pitch for paranoia about sex. It both plays off of and worsens pre-existing fears.

    For anyone who is concerned, and who wants a summary of what is known about the actual risks, I suggest reading the editorial I link to above, which was reprinted in the Journal of the American Medical Association.
    
    I don’t think that an abstinence approach is going to work. In teenagers and for that matter in people of many other ages, erotic impulses are too strong to resist, and resisting them is dangerous, not to mention boring and all that fun lost. IMO forcing a stop to sex, or even attempting to, has considerable negative effects in terms of personality development. Young people need to relate to one another, they need to explore, and we need to understand that there are risks inherent in any sex.

    The discussions about HPV polarize in several directions. First we read that 90% are believed to clear each infection, though up to 90% of people overall get at least one infection in their lives. From there we do not know the rate of people who develop cell dysplasias, nor the rate who go onto develop cancer. Most of those are preventable by routine testing.

    Nobody knows the real patterns of transmission: for example, I’ve read that it’s only transmitted about 60% of the time, on a couple by couple basis. But some iterations of the virus seem to be more persistent, such as strain 16 (there is a relatively new book called The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks, which discusses what happened to a sample of her cervical cancer lesion).

    I’ve read that men have more oral infections (which most reportedly get from women), but can pass HPV to women orally less easily than genitally. A cancer effect in men is noted with oral infection (and with both sexes in anal penetration). The existence of oral transmissions studies implies that it can be tested for in men, even though most articles you read say that it cannot be. I’ve also read that it can be passed by kissing and sex toys. I’ve read that it can be passed with condoms, as there is still skin to skin contact. So what exactly do we do? Eliminating sex is not an option.

    I think that more sharing masturbation (social self-pleasuring, not handjobs) is definitely an option, but where else have you heard that suggested? It is my concept of the next sexual revolution.

    I think there are some morals to the HPV story, including do your best to have real contact and communication with your partners; work on the underlying issues of guilt and shame; understand your sexual history and those of your partners; use condoms; take care of your immune system; women must obviously get Pap tests, which now usually come with some HPV analysis (though there is a high false negative rate, which is why the tests must be repeated); and we must treat sex as a form of holistic communication. I think we need to learn to follow the Go / No Go intuition that often comes with sexual experiences.

    I don’t think fear is the answer. I don’t think a girl keeping her legs and mouth shut is the answer. We have to count the cost of that, in frustration, lack of maturity, lack of emotional expression, and many other factors. And the answer is clearly not Gardasil.

    One last thing. I propose we look at this as part of the larger cancer environment. There’s a lot going on there.

21. I contacted HPV when I was 30. Spent a year going to the doc’s to have the cancer lesions burned out of my uterus with a laser (yes, really). It didn’t work so I had a hysterectomy (not so easy to lose your womb at such an early age). I had a few partners when I contacted it so nailing down the culprit was impossible considering the virus does not show up in tests for men. My doctor contacted the doctors of the men involved. One of those doctors contacted one of the men’s workplace and informed whoever answered the phone “Tell —– to call me. This woman he’s been seeing, MandyM, is spreading around VD”. It was a small town, it was humiliating.
    I eventually married this particular man. Lo and behold, 15 years later (while I was divorcing him) his 1st wife contacted it (she only had 2 partners in life). This disease will stay dormant in your system for many years and can be activated by stress/menopause/illness. She was experiencing menopause, didn’t get a pap test regularly because she had the one partner (her 2nd husband) for over 20 years. When they finally figured out what was wrong, it was well progressed. She battled it for 3 years but passed away 2 years ago.
    When I asked my doctor if it was obvious to him that my ex was the carrier he replied “Any idiot could see he’s the carrier.” My ex was a sexual addict. I can’t even imagine how many he infected and I can’t do anything about it because there isn’t a test that will prove it and men don’t get symptoms (though I read recently that it is starting to show up in men as oral cancer from giving oral sex).
    My daughter caught the virus when she was 17 (do kids listen when you warn them? no – though she did take my advice and didn’t get the shot. When she asked me what the solution was all I could say was “Keep your legs and mouth shut.”) so it is rampant in the young generation. My gynecologist told me that 80% of North America is infected with this. It seems like a losing battle for anyone over 15-20 at this point – and I certainly wouldn’t trust condoms to do the job.
    I spread the word when I can and tell my female kindreds to GET A PAP TEST TWICE A YEAR!!! I was lucky I got a pap test when I did as it was discovered in the early stages.
    Good for you for bringing this awareness around again Eric – it seems to have been shuffled under the carpet in recent years.

22. This was exactly why I did NOT get my girls vaxed with Gardisil. It was too new, not tested enough and though I got my kids vaxed with other vaccines, I didn’t that one.

    As an Army Brat, I was vaxed more than the average kid back in the 60’s and 70’s so I knew vaccines were safe for ME. Dh was also vaxed a lot as a kid in the 50’s and 60’s and he was fine so genetically, my kids were not predisposed to have problems and they don’t. Yet the newer vaccines they tried to push on us didn’t sound as well-tested or researched so some of these, I didn’t opt in for and I am glad I didn’t. Also, when my kids were born, they didn’t vax six vaccines at once on infants; they did them maybe two at a time or if they wanted to do more, I said NO and made them do them weeks apart. I didn’t want their immune systems taxed to the point that they go into overdrive (which causes autoimmune diseases). So far, my kids are all ok.

    I am so glad this is coming back out again about Gardisil. Thanks for doing this.