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Rachel interviews the head of the Columbia University Center for Radiological Research, with some interesting details regarding radioactive iodine versus the other isotopes that can cause radiation sickness. There is a lot of information floating around about taking iodine pills and kelp; this researcher states that while iodine pills are not a bad thing, the way to avoid radioactive iodine it is to stop drinking milk. Apparently the way humans take up radioactive iodine from the environment is that after it has fallen from the ground, it gets eaten by cows with their grass, and is passed on into the animals’ milk. While radioactive iodine targets the thyroid gland, and another isotope targets the bone, cesium is actually the most problematic because it targets the entire body.
I’d appreciate any feedback or other sources on this topic; this is something worth getting right.
More from Gabriel Cousins, MD:
People have sent me absolutely countless emails about potassium iodide to prevent uptake of radioactive iodine. On the assumption that repetition may be useful, let me begin by saying that while this information is accurate, what was released from the Fukushima reactor was radioactive cesium. Trace amounts of radioactive iodine were found very close to the reactor itself but for the moment, the issue is cesium, not iodine.
So, we are not talking thyroid but muscles and the reproductive system and eventually the liver and kidneys and ultimately everywhere but the thyroid is not the primary focus of attention. Cesium is very different from iodine. It explodes on contact with moisture. So, the first preventative measure, in the event of fallout, is to stay indoors and the second is to wear a wet face mask when going out.
When the fires were raging in Los Alamos, the air was heavy. I vividly remember one experience. My car was in the garage. I got into it with the garage door still closed, opened the door before starting the engine. I was able to park about 10-12 feet from the door to the bank but the tiny exposure to outside air at that time was immediately weakening. Now, however, we have a type of radioactivity that will be more subtle and depending on the exact type of cesium, the half life and then the half life of the half life and so on and so forth will haunt us for several generations to come. I hope this is the end of the nuclear age and the dawn of sanity!
In any event, what we can do to protect ourselves is to make sure we have all the nutrients needed by the body, especially potassium.
In order to move beyond quick fix media hype and into a deeper appreciation of what preparatory and preventative measures are adequate, we need to separate a few issues. The first is to become totally clear about what is being released and how the body views that substance. As I said, cesium will be treated by the body as if it were potassium so a potassium deficiency would tend to make one more receptive to radioactive hazards posed by cesium. The first step is therefore to correct any deficiencies by ingesting adequate amounts of potassium.
How would you know if you are potassium deficient? Well, since the sodium-potassium balance affects electrolytes, a deficiency would, among other things, cause slow responses. Early warning signs would also include dry skin and some muscle weakness. Since potassium is abundant, deficiencies are usually caused by fluid loss, such as excessive use of diuretics. Hyperthyroidism could also contribute to potassium deficiencies and thus we really want to look hard at conventional wisdom and consider what exactly might happen if all the extra iodine people are now taking results in overstimulation of the thyroid at the expense of what is the real risk.
There are other nuances so these example are illustrative and not intended to be comprehensive. However, one word for those in Hawaii who are sending more emails than others at the moment, and this is that potassium regulation is affected by magnesium. Since Hawaiian islands tend to be critically low in magnesium — due to the particular composition of the volcanic material — people in Hawaii should pay extra attention to any symptoms of magnesium deficiency such as spasms. High on the list of recommended foods are sunflower seeds as they provide great sources of both potassium and magnesium. Pumpkin seeds are also superb. Leafy green vegetables and black beans are excellent as well.
The real issue, however, is maverick electrons. This is what sets off the chain reactions that lead to tissue damage and degeneration. So, we need radioprotective supplements, like Chyawanprash or other good antioxidants and free radical scavengers. Pacifi Ka has Gingko biloba as the main radioprotective herb and beets to help with free radical scavenging. In addition, it offers protection to the reproductive system and bone marrow, the parts of the body most likely to be impacted. It is mucilaginous to help with bonding with radioactive particulates so that they can be removed. The mucilage also protects tissues from dryness and damage due to lack of viscosity. It has a tiny amount of carminative herbs to help with assimilation and nausea. It has yarrow for its subtle effects on the aura and rebalancing and liver protective bupleurum.
Japan, Radiation, and its Health and Spiritual Implications
by Gabriel Cousens, M.D. on Tuesday, March 15, 2011 at 4:26pm
Dear Ones,
As prophesized and actualized, we are in a period of earth changes as demonstrated by the major 8.9 quake that shook Japan, with all its potential radioactive consequences that may effect the whole world. These radioactive dangers include not only radioactive I-131, cesium 137, and potassium 40-42, but also the potential of one of the reactors being a plutonium run. This would be far more dangerous than
I-131 and cesium 137. A full plutonium reactor meltdown could kill a significant amount of the Japanese population. Unfortunately it is not clear if plutonium is being used in one of the reactors, and what is happening in general with the nuclear reactors there.
The following disturbing facts about the health dangers posed by higher radiation levels have been gleaned from the international news:
“Chief cabinet minister Yukio Edano said radiation levels near the stricken plant on the northeast coast reached as high as 400 millisieverts (mSv) an hour, thousands of times higher than readings before the blast. That would be 20 times the current yearly level for some nuclear-industry employees and uranium miners. Exposure to 350 mSv was the criterion for relocating people after the Chernobyl accident, according to the World Nuclear Association. People are exposed to natural radiation of about 2 mSv a year. Exposure to 100 mSv a year is the lowest level at which any increase in cancer is clearly evident. A cumulative 1,000 mSv would probably cause a fatal cancer many years later in five out of every 100 persons exposed to it.”
To help you understand the severity of the situation, in the struggle to stop plutonium satellites from being launched from Cape Canaveral, evidence was released to show that an accidental satellite explosion could kill the entire population of Florida.
These are, of course, serious consequences that leave us with the question of what to do.
On the physical plane, we know that significant protection against these deadly radiation energies occurs through competitive inhibition. In other words, if the body is taking in natural wholesome elements from certain foods, it will not have space to take in the radioactive elements. The various elements compete at the receptor cites, and healthy food wins every time.
To protect yourself from I-131 poisoning, take 5 kelp tablets daily. The body will absorb the kelp instead of the I-131.
Taking 50-100 mg of Idoral daily is more expensive and also more effective.
To protect yourself from cesium poisoning, consume plenty of high potassium foods, as potassium competitively inhibits cesium uptake.
Foods high in potassium include avocados, sea vegetables, and leafy green vegetables. I don’t necessarily recommend taking a potassium supplement. These foods should provide all you need to block cesium
137 uptake.
To protect yourself from plutonium poisoning, eat lots of dulse and consume iron from plant sources, namely sea algaes such as spirulina, E3Live, and chlorella, which provide more iron than red meat. Miso soup has also been shown to have a protective effect. NCD, at 10 drops 4 times daily, is excellent for taking almost all radioactive materials out of the body.
Additionally, foods and supplements high in antioxidants, will also help the body cope with these higher toxic levels as radioactive materials cause anti-oxidant depletion and ill health. I recommend taking the products Mega Hydrate and Anti-Oxidant Extreme for maximum antioxidant support. Eating alkalizing food is also good.
Eating low on the food chain is a basic essential principle as well. What we learned from the Chernobyl incident in
1986 was that there was a 900% increase in peri-natal mortality in the Boston area. It was found that the cows’ milk (including grass-fed cows’ milk) contained concentrated radioactive I-131, and the expectant or nursing mothers drinking the cows’ milk inadvertently poisoned their babies. The radioactive pollutions in the environment, such as depleted uranium, become more concentrated higher on the food chain. Dioxin in the environment is found concentrated in Ben and Jerry’s ice cream at 200 times a safe exposure level. This is one reason why a live-food, plant-source diet, eating low on the food chain, is the safest and best diet at this point in history and the foreseeable future.
A small point on the level of risk benefit, if you happened to live on the West Coast, all the way to Vancouver, where the peri-natal rate was increased by approximately 50% and in the Boston area by 900%, it would not have been wise to eat animal and dairy products locally. We may have to look at locavore ideologies as secondary to the bigger health issues, as eating locally only yields 11% less CO2 compared with procuring products from around the globe.
For more information on how food can mitigate the effects of radioactive toxins, read chapter 29, “How Diet Can Protect You from the Dangers of Radioactive Radiation” in my book Conscious Eating (North Atlantic Books, 2000).
Additionally, it is helpful to understand that the energies behind these earth changes are “wake-up calls” from God to change our adharmic lifestyles. I urge you to consider these prophetic unfoldings and examine your lives. Make changes that help you to move away from the Culture of Death and into the Culture of Life and Liberation. This includes careful consideration of everything from diet to doing service and charity, and no longer living according to the “relative morality” that has become the world’s standard. It might be useful to return to the basic moralities and ethics shared between all the world’s spiritual scriptures.
Blessings to the evolution of your Whole Person Enlightenment.
Rabbi Gabriel Cousens, M.D., M.D.(H), D.D., Diplomate American Board of Holistic Medicine, and Diplomate in Ayurveda
I’m obviously missing something here. Whether the cow that gives the milk is eating the grass on the green hill or not… That cow is still eating crap.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_feed
Wasn’t Monsanto a big topic here not too long ago? So who is growing all the ingredients to make feed pellets?
Eating local is a great idea, if the locality has growing happening ie: a viable season of growth. Vegan is great, if local food is not country foods, ie: fish and flesh. Kelp is grand, but where will you get it? Some ocean on some uninfected planet? All food will be affected in any of the scenarios presented. All food, apparently, is more or less affected, whether from the land or from the water.
I don’t know. I think the uplifting sharing is fantastic. I think the information sharing is fantastic. But I’ve got Dorothy Parker on my mind tonight. (You might as well live.) I appreciate the big picture, with the questions and the lucid thking. I appreciate the little pictures with the spirit of awakening or already awakened.
I guess I’m just curious about what I can actually do to help reverse the process that we (humans) started hundreds of (or more) years ago. If you can tell me that I shall be eternally grateful.
Forgive the rant. I’m just not managing the big leaps from cow patty to cow patty. I’m looking at the whole field and wondering what the hell I’m going to do with it.
..All it is storm, no expectations, only realizations. Your throw-downs are good.. so.. Thanks. Deal with your coolness, and move on to bigger things.
I’ve got myself to deal with on a personal level,. We got a big ol’ huge world to deal with out there.. You got your end, I mine… (More power too you)
Jere
oh no J, expectations! my lessons are much about those, and how to release them. hope you (all) inJoy ina way. am happy to share any way.
hey again,
sorry about the long post before, I get going with the history and all…trying to be thorough??
anyhoo, Amanda, I think you or someone was trying to get the scoop on the use of KI after the fallout of radioactive iodine & it’s relationship to the thyroid,etc.?
http://www.bt.cdc.gov/radiation/ki.asp
link is from the CDC, Center for Disease Control & Prevention. the thyroid issue is way more imp. for infants, children, & developing fetuses than it is for adults. in fact, as we get older taking KI can be very harmful….not something to mess with.
for the budding radiation physicist:
On the left sidebar are also some other goodies, one entitled “Info about Radiation” has a Radiation Dictionary for All Things that are totally Rad..
I hope this gets through…it has a link…
..Hold on, Stormi showed up with a flick. I have to go and watch it now (she’s always got good stuff!)
See ya in a while.
Jere
Kyla, I wrote the other day that folk think the Ocean is an infinite sink-hole…
It can’t continue. You though, please continue with your info.. (I’m a poor researcher.. and sooo appreciate you for clueing me in!! Thank you.) 😉
Your friend, stalwart companion, fellow tripper, blah blah blah…,
Jere
for its own reason the Brazilian short film “Ilha das Flores” (1989) has been coming to mind this weekend, and the conversation today motivated me to re-View it. while the medium is (brutally?) satirical, the message is a reminder to us of our ‘intellect’ and our interconnectedness. ♥☮♫
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5263978110274124891#
And….. it is very poignant to take note of that Sendai where the quake was centered, “is home to the most famous and romantic of summer festivals, Tanabata, when the stars Vega and Altair, who are in love but separated by the Milky Way, are reunited for one night.” (from a NYTimes piece I read today)
Here is one version of that story, shared with me by a friend just now:
“Tanabata-Matsuri is the celebration of the “meeting” of two young people who have come to commit their lives to each other and to live life in “LOVE” (they are ever experiencing the“AMAE”, (“Omoiyari”) with each other and toward each other! The young girl, Megumi, who has been known by the villagers, as “Silky-Thread-Girl”, (“Kinu-Ito-Girl”), has been working with her mother and helping her family learning to weave since she was old enough to walk. She ultimately earned the official title, as Ori-Hime, “Weaver Princess Star” by the Shogun Takanori.
There is a young boy, by the name of Ushi-Wakamatsu, as villagers nicknamed him as “Wa-Gyu’. (it means Japanese ox). He was looked upon by the villagers, poor-lad who had to work in the cultivating and tilting the fields, in-season-and-out-season’; he also attended raising all sorts of domestic animals, dirty and sweats and never seemed have any time to play with young people in the village. The struggling teen-ager’s life, daily hardship made him strong physically and mentally and he seemed to have mastered how to “communicate” with animals. Years later, he became known, as “Ken-Gyu”, “Herd-Boy-Star” at the Shogun Takanori’s Court. ”
I do not remember what happened to separate them, but it is one of those mythic archetypes re-enacted yearly…… at Sendai.
Amanda, sorry, I know that went pretty far off topic.
Jere, yes, I was wondering about how plants uptake such substances from the soil and I do not know more than the fact that the process itself is a very complex process and some things are absorbed and some not or more so and less so, and it depends on the plant and many other factors……
I am very much still hoping we don’t have to deal with agricultural soil contamination with radioactive elements on a wide scale. That, truly, would be devastating.
What this will do to the sea water is bad enough to contemplate, and I have not seen any information about that factor yet. They are using sea water, the water is going somewhere…… etc.
Kyla, the washing factor is tres important! Though, you have to consider the fact of the plantae metabolic proceese. As Everything in this reality we absorb, like sponges. That in essence is the definition of eating. Plants eat too. Whatever matter touches their roots (especially,.. but transpirational metabolic processes take place ALL over the plant..) becomes absorbed into them. Exactly the same as humans absorbing the matter that they consume. This,.. is the infinite link.
It’s not so much (give or take a few degrees,.. this coming from a vegan) What we eat, but where we get it from. (..and shit man, if I were out in the woods all alone, I’d eat that fish.. kill that animal. Just so I live.)
Jere
just wiki’d “Cesium-137”. Although it’s absorbed whole body (more in muscle, less in bone and fat) it’s water soluable. No chemist here, but following a short information trail led me to consider that having appropriate iron in my body will help to eliminate this substance.
Iron was on the list of helpful supplements that Fe published earlier on her article. With my limited financial resources, rather than take this as supplement, Ive decided to depend on the Iron that’s in my food; kale, brusselsprouts, broccoli etc.
Just working my way through a maze – sharing in case any of this is useful to anyone else.
Amanda, for me, it is about health in general.
Another great and highly informative show with Rachell Maddow this evening!
Gundersen, “If I were to pontificate, regarding pontification, I would pontificate that pontification is proportionate to it’s opposite pontification. Therefore, I wouldn’t really say anything of value, but I would take up a portion of your life, pontificating.”
oh Stellium, that was you – had Amanda’s name on it a minute ago – thanks for the post.
Amanda, thanks for moving it up top – important stuff.
ha, ya Amanda…one of the reasons I enjoy RM so much is because her sense of humor (and the Real Real News) is so in-between-all-the-bullshit. Or in this case, cow-milk.
Thanks for your post re: sites re: real info re: radiation. Heading there now.
Within the 2-3 week range (allowing for field to store time) I plan to begin to chose DDT Mexican produce over “formerly organic” washington/oregon/california produce.
Acknowledged. And good point about what dairy cows actually still eat grass, I’m embarrassed not to have noticed that one.
But you can wash veggies and you can’t wash milk. Does washing it off not work at all? That would be good to know.
Frank Von Hippel, Princeton (no less) “Uhhhh, yeah, they (Japans Nuclear folk) need to get water in there,..uhh (they just had a tsunami!???), and they’re having, uhhh, a hard time getting water in there, uhhhh, ’cause you know, in a tsunami it’s hard to find water, uhhhhhhh!!!!”
Dick. (Although the one poignant thing you did say had to do with placing cameras within eyeshot. I’ll volunteer. I’ll go. Shit, I don’t care if the shit blows up in my face, if I get pictures of what’s goin’ down.. I’m there! Not shittin’ ya ‘folk in charge’, I’ll do it, I’ll sign the waver, no remuneration if I get torn to shreds.. You know where I am, let’s hook up. Shit, I’ll even drop from a helicopter at high speed, that would fe hella fun!!)
..sillier, and sillier..
Oh God.
LEAVE MY COWS ALONE!!!!
OK, in all seriousness:
class, are you paying attention??? hasn’t Eric et al. been putting provocative pieces up here for you to exercise your Bullshit meter??
something smells….yes???
I know Jere’s onto it!
k. peeps, here goes: a lot of the studies done on radioactive iodine fallout, i.e. Hanford, WA (from 1940′s -1950′s), 90 bomb testings(Nevada) (mainly 1950′s) were from a period in HISTORY when a lot of people drank milk. remember the dairyman coming to deliver???
therefore, it goes without saying that the main source of I-131 problems was…milk.
TODAY that prob. wouldn’t be the case. there are SO many more ways, (just like there were back then, but they were not studied- ahem.)
also back then, most of our dear dairy friends actually WERE on fresh pasture. today, they are not. also, back then, many more people owned the Family cow. by owning the Family cow, you got Pure Goodness, unless radioactive fallout contaminated the pasture, and yes, because you were drinking the milk VERY fresh, you got more of the repercussions. processed milk, you still did, just not as much because during the TIME it took to be processed, the radioactivity would of course be down. If you owned a goat, you got even more, as goats milk is more concentrated.
Make no mistake, you can get I-131 from breathing air, from leafy vegetables, from eggs, and of course other dairy.
in a excerpt from a National Cancer Institute report I found on NIH:
“Much less detailed analyses are being done for exposures from foods other than milk, and for exposure through inhalation, because these exposure pathways are much less important than drinking milk. ”
http://rex.nci.nih.gov/massmedia/backgrounders/falloutreportqa.html
as has been mentioned previously in this blog, just because a study has or hasn’t been done can change the whole picture, the whole perception of what is going on.
and as also been previously mentioned in this blog, there is a REAL need for common-sense and Bullshit detectors…..
yes. I-131 falling on grass consumed by cows will end up in the milkchain and be bad. but ALSO I-131 falling on ALL the leafy vegetables grown in the Central Valley of CA will also end up in the foodchain and also not be good.
((sigh))
I can provide you with the actual studies of some of these things, although I warn you it’s a lot like legalese… interestingly a study I found on I-131 and Ce-137, Ce-134 exposure from Chernobyl was done at Kyoto University….
http://www.rri.kyoto-u.ac.jp/NSRG/reports/kr79/kr79pdf/Stepanenko.pdf
radiation radiation radiation. I have worked in a cancer treatment facility and the same good advice that is given to people receiving radiation therapy is applicable. many people on here have posted those recommendations..
radiation does not “dissipate” it will diffuse… “oh it will just dissipate over the ocean, won’t even get to US no worries” sorry but those are ramblings of a moron. pass me a tuna sandwich while you’re at it..
the thyroid: yes. a whole other discussion.
yes. more Isotopes : a whole other discussion.
interested in reading more on these lovelies? (I-129, I-131, Cs-137, Strontium, Uranium, etc.??)
http://www.epa.gov/radiation/radionuclides/iodine.html
I’ve tried to reference things that are semi-understandable to laypeople…
phew….
offered to provide information- YOU decide if you are interested….
love you guys!!!
stellium —
your comment got hung up in moderation due to having more than one link in it. i’m re-posting it at the top of the comments because it’s exactly the kind of questioning i was hoping someone could help me out with. thank you!
in fact, you should consider getting it to maddow somehow… she has a blog, yes?
Hazel, please stop. I already like mayo way too much.
*grin*
Amanda, the dietary suggestions I posted are about the whole body response to any radiation threat. I have not run across anything specific to cesium or any other specific besides the potassium iodide which, it seems, is not a great thing to be taking generally…..
I did like the comment in this video (I believe it was? gosh, lots of info flowed by since then indeed!) that the way workers exposed to radiation are decontaminated is with soap and water.
Well, I got those…….
P.S. This won’t make the commercial, kind of gelatinous super white mayo that kind of goes **boinggg** when you put a spoonful on a plate and makes that neat dippity doo spiky curl on top, this makes more of a hollandaise type creamy beautiful luxury that you definitely do feel is a sin of some kind, a good kind. I must be hungry.
so the food thread has taken some interesting turns while i was at rehearsal and then cooking and eating dinner.
no one has really specified, but are all of these tips about food & supplements just targeting protecting the thyroid from radioactive iodine or other radioactive isotopes as well? like cesium (which targets the whole body) or the other one (the name i forget) that targets bone?
It’s not that much trouble to make your own mayo, get good eggs, good oil, separate the egg (I’d start with one egg to practice), plop the yolk into a bowl, a hint of dijon mustard if you like, a bit of cayenne pepper, if you like, a tablespoon of vinegar and whisk by hand until all is blended. When it is, add 3/4 cup of whatever oil you like, drop by drop, whisking constantly. As the sauce thickens, increase the flow of oil but be slow and patient. This makes the most creamy, silken mayonnaise. For a less personal mayo, you can do it in a cuisinart thing, but it’s not the same and has more of a chance of separation. You want to bring things together and a cuisinart can tear delicate things like eggs apart unless you’re careful. Sounds harder than it is, really, but the whisking is worth it. Patience makes it sound like forever, but it’s really not.
It is possible to make one’s own mayo. But you have to be pretty dedicated, to something, in order to go to that much trouble.
🙂
Yes, Jere, they do have one made with grapeseed oil. As with all things processed, it is best to use in moderation. I have to say the virgin coconut oil Fe mentioned is pretty hard to top.
..Bill Richardson is a dip-shit! “Uh, we’ll have to sit on our thumbs, rotate a few degrees, and enjoy the sensation, Uh..”. Asshole.
..Is it safe in California?.. Is this shit safe anywhere? (Jackasses)
Fuck the politicians, these cats are stupid.
We are it, we are on our own..
Jere
Now is the time to go local with your produce purchases! Keep your antioxidant intake high as well as vitamins and minerals. I’m doing natural sources of iodine.
..Like the Honey Badger I don’t give a shit, I’ll eat the Plantae, Fungi, Protista, Archae, and Bacteria realms.. I just don’t eat the animalia.. except those little guys, like aphids and other clingers, flyers or corpse matter I don’t wind up washing off, by accidental mishap. Not my intention (too eat them), just reality.
Jere
..Angie, long long time ago I think.. ( I ‘splurge’ once in a very great while on prefab goods, 99.9% of what I eat is ‘raw’ as raw gets.) If it is Vegan, I’ve eaten it.. if not I read the ingredients and said “No thanks.” Grapeseed Oil I believe though,.. No?
Jere
..apologies Fe, thought you were speaking of that preservative ridden, cholesterol in a bottle, death to all living substance, egg mess they call “Best Foods”?!?
..I’ll clarify better next time.
Jere
Oh God.
LEAVE MY COWS ALONE!!!!
OK, in all seriousness:
class, are you paying attention??? hasn’t Eric et al. been putting provocative pieces up here for you to exercise your Bullshit meter??
something smells….yes???
I know Jere’s onto it!
k. peeps, here goes: a lot of the studies done on radioactive iodine fallout, i.e. Hanford, WA (from 1940’s -1950’s), 90 bomb testings(Nevada) (mainly 1950’s) were from a period in HISTORY when a lot of people drank milk. remember the dairyman coming to deliver???
therefore, it goes without saying that the main source of I-131 problems was…milk.
TODAY that prob. wouldn’t be the case. there are SO many more ways, (just like there were back then, but they were not studied- ahem.)
also back then, most of our dear dairy friends actually WERE on fresh pasture. today, they are not. also, back then, many more people owned the Family cow. by owning the Family cow, you got Pure Goodness, unless radioactive fallout contaminated the pasture, and yes, because you were drinking the milk VERY fresh, you got more of the repercussions. processed milk, you still did, just not as much because during the TIME it took to be processed, the radioactivity would of course be down. If you owned a goat, you got even more, as goats milk is more concentrated.
Make no mistake, you can get I-131 from breathing air, from leafy vegetables, from eggs, and of course other dairy.
in a excerpt from a National Cancer Institute report I found on NIH:
“Much less detailed analyses are being done for exposures from foods other than milk, and for exposure through inhalation, because these exposure pathways are much less important than drinking milk. ”
http://rex.nci.nih.gov/massmedia/backgrounders/falloutreportqa.html
as has been mentioned previously in this blog, just because a study has or hasn’t been done can change the whole picture, the whole perception of what is going on.
and as also been previously mentioned in this blog, there is a REAL need for common-sense and Bullshit detectors…..
yes. I-131 falling on grass consumed by cows will end up in the milkchain and be bad. but ALSO I-131 falling on ALL the leafy vegetables grown in the Central Valley of CA will also end up in the foodchain and also not be good.
((sigh))
I can provide you with the actual studies of some of these things, although I warn you it’s a lot like legalese… interestingly a study I found on I-131 and Ce-137, Ce-134 exposure from Chernobyl was done at Kyoto University….
http://www.rri.kyoto-u.ac.jp/NSRG/reports/kr79/kr79pdf/Stepanenko.pdf
radiation radiation radiation. I have worked in a cancer treatment facility and the same good advice that is given to people receiving radiation therapy is applicable. many people on here have posted those recommendations..
radiation does not “dissipate” it will diffuse… “oh it will just dissipate over the ocean, won’t even get to US no worries” sorry but those are ramblings of a moron. pass me a tuna sandwich while you’re at it..
the thyroid: yes. a whole other discussion.
yes. more Isotopes : a whole other discussion.
interested in reading more on these lovelies? (I-129, I-131, Cs-137, Strontium, Uranium, etc.??)
http://www.epa.gov/radiation/radionuclides/iodine.html
I’ve tried to reference things that are semi-understandable to laypeople…
phew….
offered to provide information- YOU decide if you are interested….
love you guys!!!
Joining up the dots
Raising money for corporate benefactors, capitalising on their (republican) power base in the House and local States, in 32 states seeking to pass legislation to make it harder for groups identified as democratic voters to vote, grant authority to overturn or sack elected people/legislation they disagree with, throwing up crisis distractions – budget deficit, trying to knock out the group (unions) who would effectively protest.
I may have missed some points (dots)
And the segments about republican politics/wisconsin are comprehensive and important too…
Personally, as a person born in ’61, lived in eastern PA relatively near Three Mile Island in ’79 (my senior year of high school) and coming from parents that had distinct memories of WWII and all the rage of the atomic age, and of course, Chernobyl with the realization that no one tells the truth, I have to say that when I pull out those stored iodine pills I have in storage, I will not be thinking of eating my normal fresh veggie diet.
By that time you are talking contamination. In ’78 &’79 we lived on a dairy farm, renting a house next to the milking barn, and the farmers had to dump the milk when TMI steamed. I don’t remember if that was mandatory if they did it on their own.
Seriously, think through what you eat now, what you would do if you couldn’t or didn’t want to go to a store and act accordingly. Even if contamination is minor, which I don’t believe there is such a thing, I would far prefer to grow my own sprouts from storage, pull out my bulk containers of rice, beans, TVP, freeze dried eggs, veggies, fruit, etc.
Having what you would need on hand is simply being prepared. It isn’t being nutty. I learned living on that damn farm in the worst snow storms and running out of food (they had to dump the milk then too! no deliveries!) that having staples around is not a bad idea.
I love that Eric posted Dr. Strangelove! Slim! George C. Scott looked like a baby! I haven’t watched that in about ten years so we just pulled it out of our dvd collection to see it again.
Another movie about nuclear consequence that I would highly recommend for younger people is “Testament” from 1983. Starring Jane Alexander, William Devane, it was the first speaking role movie release for Kevin Costner. He and Rebecca Demornay are VERY young newlyweds. Lukas Haas was in preschool. I would have to say that it has and continues to be one of the most profound movies I have ever seen in my 50 years. (if you have not seen it, don’t read the Wiki description, it doesn’t begin to touch the feeling of its beautifully written story.)
My concern is that we grew up with this in our faces A LOT and well, times change. Today, I heard a CNN reporter say she didn’t know what it meant to have a “meltdown.” When we heard of Chernobyl, we thought the world was going to end. I do not know which is better, the fear or complacency and denial of consequences for what we do with and about our “energy.”
Jere:
Up to you. There are great olive oil mayos that will do the trick as well and are heart-protective.
I’ve been a virgin coconut oil girl most of my life and feel all the better for it.
I was happy (?!) that most of what is recommended for consumption to assist our bodies with heightened radiation is what I’m eating and supplementing anyway…..and although many preferred consumables are simply out of my price range, it seems there are simple ways to continue to protect our bodies from effects of the increased radiation that has no doubt already begun on the west coast.
Was intrigued by conversation taking place in health food store today re: lack of concern for Japan (“that’s their problem”) but heightened concern that nuclear reactors in CA are up for ‘being next as we haven’t had a big earthquake for some time’.
Jere – I agree. there is nothing to isolate from anything else when it comes to radiation. at the moment my focus is on how to minimize impact both on the body and on what I’m putting into it.
Jere, have you tried Vegenaise?
..Mayo’s just achin’ to cling to your heart. In a bad way…
Fe, I would trade the ‘Mayo’ in for some sort of nut, or bean butter,.. even a Garbanzo bean paste (mung, almond, cashew, anasazi, peanut (if you don’t get the allergic reactions I do from peanuts), sesame, any bean, or any nut (legume), soy, miso, tahini (seed butters are cool.. sesme (tahini), and sunflower. Flax butter, as well as Hemp butter are beyond cool in the nutrient spectrum.
Jere
Sounds yummy, Fe! Thanks for the recipe.
RECIPE TIME!!!
Auntie Fe’s High Protection Kelp Noodle Salad
1 pkg. clear kelp noodles
3 TBS. white miso paste
4 tbs. mayo
1 tsp. toasted sesame oil
2 large carrots, grated
2 bunches green onions, finely minced
1 bunch fresh cilantro
splash soy
DRESSING:
Add miso paste, soy, sesame oil and mayo to large bowl. Whisk vigorously until blended.
REST OF THE RECIPE:
Soften kelp noodles in boiling water. This should take 15-20 minutes. Drain, rinse with cool water, and drain again. Add to bowl with dressing. Mix well to combine. Add green onions, cilantro and carrots. Mix one more time.
If you want, garnish with chopped roasted peanuts.
COMPLETELY DELISH AND TO LIVE FOR!!!
Angie, very good! Yes! Eat those apples, drink that Miso tea. (Burdock root, Yellow Dock root, and Dandelion root, will also help put your kidney-adrenal-liver: function in order. This is your basis in physiology.)
..just spreadin’ the info…
Jere
..I can see the bio-accumulation factor.. again,.. diet? The cow plays it’s role as the ‘power plant’ that processes the raw matter, and converts it into another form. That ‘form’, in all of its new molecular structures gets digeted by the other creatures. Now in the form of milk, it has gone through a specific bio-conversion process (it’s not the same physio-metabolic processes as the muscle per-se, different molecular processes create different Molecules..and even some of those are analogues: mimicks that don’t function in the same way.)
..wow..
..I got a long way too go..
Jere
apples, sunflower seeds, flax oil:
http://www.naturalnews.com/030664_cell_phones_radiation.html
..Kyla, you’re pretty much listing my basic diet!!.. Throw in a few more plants, herbs, and preparations and you’ve got me pegged!!
..I guess I should start figuring out ‘why I eat the way I eat, and not just in a background ‘feeling’ sort of way.. (I never could adequately answer the “What made you become Vegan?” question I’ve heard a million times before.)
Weed Rocks! Very Nice! Susan Weed!!! (Pick up a book, it’s worth it..)
(..inertial dampeners: check!; infinite link: check! All systems Go!..)
Jere
I think that’s likely it, bioaccumulation….. substances concentrate that way, so eating grains themselves would not deliver such a concentrated amount as to cause harm?
good interview, thanks for posting it, Amanda.
iodine, chlorella, etc.:
http://www.naturalnews.com/031708_iodine_radiation.html
miso:
http://japandave.com/2010/11/what-is-miso-and-how-to-make-it/#
that was my thought, too…
bioaccumulation, maybe? that cow would eat a hell of a lot more grass than i would.
Good point, off the cuff or no.
I just got an email from someone with a lot of long recipes and stuff in, but the message about Potassium Iodide contained in it was that adults over 40 are more in danger of reacting to the iodine than they are of contracting thyroid damage or cancer from radiation.
Recommended were mineral rich foods, dark greens, seaweed, nettles, etc. Let’s see, this excerpt seems to have most of the basic info:
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“… focus on an iodine-rich, radiation-protective diet going forward, starting…tonight! It’s not just the thyroid we have to worry about and protect; all other organs and tissues can be affected by radiation. The obvious additions to my meal plan: miso, seafood, and seaweeds – such as kombu, wakame, kelp, dulse, and nori….”
The not-so-obvious additions:
Mineral-rich nettles infusions – High in iodine, as well as many other nutrients including vitamins A, B complex, C, D, E and K, iron, calcium, magnesium, potassium, chromium, silica, silicon, selenium and sulphur.
Burdock root (Arctium lappa) – Removes radioactive isotopes from the body.
Orange and dark green vegetables like kale, spinach, collards, sweet potatoes, winter squash – According to herbalist Susun Weed, “Japanese researchers found that diets high in carotenes significantly reduced DNA damage in humans exposed to radiation. Supplements of beta-carotene (or of vitamins C or E) did not show this effect. Eating lots of orange and dark green foods (sweet potatoes, winter squash, beets, carrots, kale, collards, chard, and spinach, for example) can protect you from radiation-induced cancers.”
Broccoli, cabbage, mustard greens, arugula, cauliflower, bok choy, and other cruciferous vegetables – Brassicaceae or Cruciferae, also known as the crucifers, the mustard family or cabbage family is a family of flowering plants that can help protect your cells from radiation damage.
Dried beans such as lentils and mung beans – Contain protease inhibitors, known to block and prevent formation of tumor cells. According to herbalist Susun Weed, dried beans can even reverse DNA damage done by radiation.
Anchovies – High in iodine and calcium.
Black and green tea – In his book (Fighting Radiation and Chemical Pollutants With Foods, Herbs and Vitamins: Documented Natural Remedies That Boost Your Immunity and Detoxify), Steven Schechter says that both black and green tea showed “radioprotective effects” whether taken before or after exposure to radiation.
Susun Weed shares a lot of other wonderful radiation-protective food, herb, and lifestyle tips in her column Antidotes for X-Rays on Planet Thrive.
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..In an instant, without watching the story, I can ‘inquire’, “If it’s in the grass that the cows eat, how is it not in the ‘cereal’ grasses that humans eat?”
“These seem like psuedo-checks to a serious off balance.”- Me
..but that’s from the cuff, and I require more info.
Jere