Part One of a Few. I will post Len Wallick’s daily astrology piece at about noon Eastern Time. Fe Bongolan is in the kitchen cooking up a special edition of Fe-911. Stay tuned…
Good morning. Well, we finally have a chart to look at: a year of ‘debate’ (vicious infighting complete with kicking, biting and claws) is basically over, and the United States has entered a new era: one where our government does something besides take things from its people and drop bombs.
Let’s see what we can learn. As most know, the House of Representatives passed the Senate’s version of what is being called health care reform. Other coverage will get into the specifics; I will stick to the astrology for now, and cover it in a few parts today and tomorrow. Let’s get things rolling with an overview of the chart.
My first inclination was to call this the chart for the National Insurance and Gambling Exotic Instrument Reform Act of 2010. On its face, it looks like a chart about hedge funds. In truth it’s about the biggest hedge fund of them all — the health gambling racquet. One in six dollars transacted in our American economy changes hands doing something like paying for an MRI or chemotherapy or spleen removal or dialysis: what we call health care. One in six — probably more. It’s been like this for a generation; I know because I covered the medical industry (specifically, the AMA) in the late 1980s; it was an amazing fact then and it’s amazing now.
That is a lot of money, and an industry has just been created with this act of law. My instinct as a publisher is saying, get into the business. Start a high-end industry newsletter called Health Reform Bulletin and sell it to hospitals for $1,500 a year. Before I write out that business plan, let’s see what this chart says: it is incredible, verging on funny for its astute presentation of the situation. (And it’s so complex on the financial end that there is indeed a lot of money to be made explaining it.)
In the end, after a convoluted run around the houses, this chart actually does work out to be about an event that addresses health reform, and creates a legacy for our children that we can point to besides the bill for two extravagant, fraudulent wars. And to be sure, this chart affects a lot of people. The personal is political; the Sun is on the Aries Point.
The minor planets factor prominently and we need to watch them if we want a clue what’s going on. And one last: we need to use a deep-space point called the Great Attractor, which is located at 14+ Sagittarius — precisely opposite the Moon’s position. This point is not shown in the chart; you just remember it’s there.
The Great Attractor is the biggest thing known; we cannot see it; we don’t know what it is (we just see the invisible radiation being broadcast on every frequency except visible light); and our whole sector of space — a million galaxies in our local group and way beyond — are being pulled toward the Great Attractor at the rate of about a million miles per hour. All of this is true, not something out of a video game or Star Trek VII. And that tells us about the force and momentum of this issue.
The G.A. polarizes reality, creating divisions and strong opinions, but in the end it (whatever it is) is unassailable. The Moon (which represents the public) is opposite this point precisely, in (polarized) Gemini, in the crisis-driven, death-oriented 8th house. Luna in this chart, incidentally, represents the world public, not just the American public. In any chart involving the public she represents the public, and Cancer rules the 9th house — global reality. The connection is the global economy; and also symbolically, the United States finally making a move to catch up to the world. This, not one moment too late. The patient (that 8th house Moon) is in crisis. Remember that the pollution released in Africa gets to Kansas and vice versa. Speaking of cancer — how much of that 15% of the American economy is spent on treating cancer, per se, and who creates the cancer? Hellooo Monsanto, Dow, Occidential, General Electric. Who profits from treatment? All of the above, and Big Pharma.
The 8th is the house of “other people’s resources.” The rancor, the vicious divisions, the insane politics, the bad-faith backstabbing, are largely about money. This is true for both “sides” of the issue, pro and con; for most people, getting medical care is an issue of money: of resources. This is a Great Attractor chart; a vast magnet. This event will focus money on the issue; money that will be unleashed with the power of a storm surge as this law takes effect. Note Pholus in the 2nd house conjunct the Great Attractor — small cause, big effect; opening up the lid and out comes…whatever. A money tsunami comes to mind.
Yet beyond this, two things stand out: one is that there are planets concentrated in the 5th house — chez gambling, true enough, and the big gamble known as our children: the generation that has not yet come of age. That’s all the Pisces. Second, the 6th house of this chart (which I am counting as the whole 6th sign, Aries, even though it looks like it’s in the 5th house) is Aries: a new beginning; an initiative; the focus of attention on something we need to be aware of, which is our collective wellbeing.
So, though these events occur to the great chagrin of conservatives and progressives (that’s the division of the Gemini Moon opposite the Great Attractor), something appears to have happened that is an actual step forward.
The United Kingdom, as we know, has a National Health Service (NHS). If you’re a British subject anywhere in the world, you get to go to the doctor; that’s it. It doesn’t all work as well as it should (it’s been starved of resources since Margaret Thatcher’s time), but The UK is a huge country and in reality it does work better than having no option other than an emergency room visit.
The NHS was founded by a Welshman named Aneurin “Nye” Bevan. Bevan was born in Tredegar, South Wales, and was Minister for Health in the Labour government at the time. He had a hard life as most in the Welsh mining communities did. He was passionate as a result of his own and their suffering. He was known as a great orator, the only one who could really take on Churchill in a debate, despite having had to overcome a stammer. He believed in the principle of health care being free at the point of need, and did everything it took to bring that about. It took a belligerent rebel. To this day he is a great hero in Wales and throughout the Labour movement. The National Health Service was launched on July 5, 1948.
Here is a bit of what he sounded like, speaking on the eve of the National Health Service taking effect on July 3, 1948. This gives a clue as to the tenor of the fight in England in the late 1940s, which doesn’t sound that different than what we just experienced in the United States.
“That is why no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party [Churchill and the conservatives] that inflicted those bitter experiences on me. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin. They condemned millions of first-class people to semi-starvation. Now the Tories are pouring out money in propaganda of all sorts and are hoping by this organised sustained mass suggestion to eradicate from our minds all memory of what we went through. But, I warn you young men and women, do not listen to what they are saying now. Do not listen to the seductions of Lord Woolton. He is a very good salesman. If you are selling shoddy stuff you have to be a good salesman. But I warn you they have not changed, or if they have they are slightly worse than they were.”
Here is an artifact from England in that era.
AuContraire, you’re my lesson in “the eyes of the beholder” today. We read the same thing and heard two different narratives. I heard that something critical to the people would get a nudge forward. You heard something about Obama, who was never mentioned, and found something to suggest the “coming Saturn/Pluto square destruction as being a lovely, progressive new era.” Ditto for a “now we are all saved” scenario. Having read Eric’s piece several times through, I also can’t find the “smug claim” that the US has stopped dropping bombs, but I did read that we have and do drop them.
Jack Welsh. GE, yes?
As for constitutionality of the mandate, as it will be folded into the tax code it may already have precedent. It will be hard to stop. I found it interesting, today, to read that Chomsky considers a mandate a necessary step toward universality. He said he’d have held his nose and voted for the bill. Nobody likes the mandate without the option, but I guess Chomsky would be as pragmatic as all those who worked toward getting something … even something flawed … into law.
As we frequent some of the same sites, I’m sympathetic to both your disenchantment and your passion. And I’m supposing that some of your anger is prompted by the fear within your world view; it’s certainly scary out there, in the cold, hard details and speculation. We’re a safe place to discuss options. Perhaps you’d like to share your thoughts on those, rather than assume we’re unaware of, or unresponsive to, your concerns.
Patty
Thanks for the clarification. I am with you on the issue of legalizing soft drugs, which seems to be what you’re saying. This of course has its complications, though at least the issue would be mostly above the boards. We would need to take a more complex approach to who has what problem and what issues are associated with what substances; and more to the point what constitutes healthy or unhealthy use. Whether a substance affects someone negatively depends largely on the person. Cannabis can have serious adverse effects on people who are wound really tight. It can be a natural part of life for other people, and everywhere on the spectrum.
I’ve spent a good bit of time in the Netherlands, where soft drugs, up to some pretty serious mushrooms, are legal and can be purchased in a shop or coffee house, depending on the substance. For the most part things go well, though the country admits that it has a soft drug problem, and there are resources (and awareness) available to work with that problem. I think we could learn a lot from the Dutch model, and that sounds consistent with what you are saying.
ef
Au Contraire –
Welcome to Planet Waves. I didn’t catch your name.
I want to point out to you and other readers that in your reply, you are attributing things to me that I have not said, including opinions, and political positions, that I do not have or would state very differently.
I have put your two comments through moderation; they are here for the community to read. In the future I will moderate comments that characterize my writing which do not also attribute a position that I have allegedly taken using words I’ve actually written. If I do that I will contact you directly by email at the time.
I have not said that the health care “reform” act that was signed by the president today is a “good” law or that it was a “bad” law. I said many other things, which are in the articles for anyone to read, and directed most of my commentary toward the divided, confused state of the American public.
In the future, I would ask that you refer directly to my writing when you characterize my viewpoint.
Referring to your astrological analysis, to characterize Neptune simply as “delusion” is to oversimplify the delineation of a complex, subtle planet that can be as much about a person or a nation finding his/her/its soul as it can be about television, Prozac, alcohol, inspiration, a dream, denial, or the presence of the Daemon of astrology: the living spirit behind the work.
Transiting Neptune conjunct the Sibley Chart’s Aquarius Moon is worth a good airing out in this space, though that conversation would also include the many themes of Chiron in combination with Neptune, conjunct the Moon. I will get that chart going tomorrow.
Eric Francis
AuContraire, that was freakin’ awesome! Speak your mind! I’m with you on a lot of shit, just not these kids being dull to the fact. These kids are smart mother fuckers!
They know their facts, You want facts, ask. These kids will tell you. They know.
You got your shit down pretty well, tell me. Tell me what makes sense to you. What can we, I, you, do?
Speak your freakin’ mind, man! Spill it, I’ll absorb it, as well as a lot of other cats.
Love,
Jere
Eric, it was just a blip for saying that some drug users are like alcoholics. I don’t really use either, but I used to smoke cigarettes – now that’s an addiction.
Talking about what drug abuse, prevention, imprisonment, and protection costs taxpayers is another subject altogether. By and large, I personally don’t think that marijuana is any worse than beer, but my nephew died of a drug overdose from using something that he thought was heroin, which wasn’t. I’d rather our abusers get the fix legally and wish my nephew was still living.
Jack Welch…Jack Welch…the name rings a bell…from the cc: list of people copied in on a memo from the 1970s about PCBs in surgical implants…or is it the guy they named Lake Welch after
Patty, why are you proposing treating anyone who uses any substance like an alcoholic? Are you suggesting that there is no appropriate use of a mind-altering substance?
I have to say, I’m really disappointed to read your “astrological analysis”. This reads to me as tie-died in True Blue t-shirt Obama Democrat spin.
Allow me to introduce myself: I’m a far to the left of you, apparently, ecofeminist who voted for Nader in 2000, 2004, and 2008.
That is correct, I dare come creeping into this apparent astro-Obama worship den to speak my piece about the nasty way the US two party wars of dualist essentialism have overtaken the neo-lib astro community in the US.
First, let me just say that in relation to said dualist essentialism that reality doesn’t reflect the following assumptions:
Republican = bad
Democrat = good
Conservative = bad
Liberal/progressive = good
Saturn = Republican
Uranus = Obama/True Blue Dems
This bill/floated Dem party proposal coopting authentic reform = better than nothing.
Just to put it in perspective, I’m with this guy:
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_health_care_hindenburg_has_landed_20100322/
How can all of you smugly claim the US has stopped dropping bombs on people? Have you not heard that Obama has expanded the US wars on two fronts in Afghanistan & Iraq?
Did you not hear about this:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hI24fNqhDbP2mY1wZyUBRJRa_UqAD9EG54N80
And you know I could keep on linking damn near forever re: Patriot Act, Iran, Gitmo, domestic surveillance, etc.
So, I would like to suggest that you may not be looking at the actual REALITIES in these charts.
Some suggestions:
Look at the Jupiter/Neptune conj in Aquarius for mass delusion/election of Obama. He is a Mandarin politician sold via feel good propaganda a la Ronald Reagan, to the American electorate as agent of change. He is nothing of the sort. Nader was 100% dead on in his descriptions of Obama. Please see the excellent writing on this over at, just as one example, the blog Black Agenda Report.
Neptune (delusion) is currently seateth on the US moon (the public). As Obama, the Mandarin president of the neoliberal corporate elite assumed power, transiting Uranus opposed the US Neptune. What does it mean (besides massive public delusion, that is)? That the collective ideals of neoliberalism shall be shaken to it’s core (don’t forget, the Weimar Republic was a liberal democracy too), and upended in order to allow new modes of thought and collective expression to emerge. There is nothing *I* see in these charts and transits that allows me see the coming Saturn/Pluto square destruction as being a lovely, progressive new era. My astrological analysis wouldn’t be quite as uplifting as your “now we are all saved” scenarios.
If you think the Health Care Hindenberg is in for a safe landing, have a look at what will happen once the court challenges to the individual mandate get cooking (when Saturn retrogrades back to Virgo). Once Saturn returns back to Libra & hits the Pluto square exact again, I think we will see something very different from what you seem to be seeing.
The court challenge to the individual mandate will likely be successful, because it is unconstitutional, and because of the Republican control of the Supreme Court (which only rules the way the Republican winds are blowing).
The irony, of course, is that Republicans actually support the individual mandate (see Truthdig also, for EJ Dionne’s article on the Democrats passing the Republican health care bill). They support their own return to power more than they do the mandate, and believe this is their ticket back to the trough.
Also look for possible legal challenges by left progressive (of the independent, not Democratic Party controlled type) organizations to the individual mandate too.
This bill is the sweetheart backroom deal Obama made with Big Pharma & Big Insurance (whose stocks rose last week the minute it was clear the public option wasn’t in the reconciliation bill).
Ditto the upcoming financial “reforms” that aren’t reforms, but retrenchment by the neoliberal corporate elite who bought the White House for Obama. They are going to make sure the pig trough is tilted toward the neoliberal elite pigs instead of the neoconservative elite pigs.
But pigs are pigs, save for those flying ones.
Or did you forget who bankrolled Obama?
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/sectorall.php?cycle=2008
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/bundlers.php?id=N00009638
(yeah, his top fundraisers were Wall Street law firms, imagine that)
Ever hear of William Budinger? Well, if you are an Obama lover, you should know who he is~the top bundler for the ’08 race:
http://archive.ideasprimary.com/?author=104
Good buds w/Jack Welsh. Know who he is?
Ditto the upcoming
Now if they would just legalize drugs and treat the users as alcoholics instead of criminals, we’d be getting somewhere and save innocent lives too, and bring in tax revenue booty too. Put the cartels out of business.
I read something truly inspiring this morning…..
“The basic issue is not one of rights, regardless of how passionately one may assert so. In fact such emphasis is a distortion because the culture which drives it is so individualistic – this is why ‘rights of the woman’ arguments are met with ‘rights of the unborn child’ arguments and the schism is replicated even though both camps have some basic ‘truth’.
The issue at root remains one of how adults, collectively, make decisions in full light of the facts. These issues, loaded as they are with just about every prejudice one can imagine, present us with opportunities to co-operate… that we eschew every time.
It is a great pity that where leadership was so sorely needed and with so much to gain, the main man replicated the injurious dichotomy via mere political pragmatism. He could have brokered more; yet at the end of the day the whole is greater than the sum of the parts and it can only be hoped that issues are refined in the future through the designated channels.”
Half De Witte you are very nearly 3/4s if not 7/8s…..
And tonight I watched Charlie Rose on Bloomberg deliver an a interview with Martin McGuiness. He of Sinn Fein; he who brokered a peace deal with Tony Blair, Gerry Adams, Ian Paisley, Bill Clinton and a whole lot more!!
We have all learned to move beyond hate. McGuiness and the Northern Ireland parties have become, at the instigation of Nelson Mandela, consultants on the road to peace in the Middle East!! Each of us learns to move on up, and share that experience.
McGuinness said exactly the same as 7/8 De Witte!! The exact words!
“It is about leadership”!!
PH
PH!…
“Let Eris keep us all on the edge, because if you are not on the edge, you are taking up too much room.”
Wow. Wowowowowowowow. Wow. Since Saturday, since this week, since this Now. Yassir Youbetcha. (Who is, you know, the son of a Palestinian and a Minnesotan).
Listening…
M
Eric,
Many thanks to you and Fe and the rest of your staff for the long hours of research and writing put in on this issue. This is a complex and intimidating thing to sort through and comprehend. The service you have provided is very valuable.
Hi Eric,
Thanks for focusing on the astrology in this series and thanks for making it a series. I am especially grateful for your observation and discussion of the Great Attractor factor and for reminding us of its powerful influence on our world and its inhabitants.
I’m also grateful for your words “the minor planets factor prominently” as they are so important to me in their (usually) subtle information about any subject. I’m also grateful for your teachings over the years regarding these bodies when information was scarce on them otherwise. I owe my interest in them wholly to you.
I see that Musicman is attuned to their vibes also, so thanks to him for pointing out the t square between the opposition of Pallas and Juno squared by Chiron, Nessus and what’s that other one? I hope you will cover that in your future articles in this series.
In your earlier article with the Point of No Return chart I commented on the Melanie Reinhart words that Pholus, who was trine to Venus (who is conjunct U.S. Chiron now), has an out-of-control effect on events he is involved in. Little did I realize that the Great Attractor was multiplying that effect about 100 times! Now he’s messing with the Moon in this chart and this explains the overwhelm of emotion on everyone’s part.
I would add another “minor planet” I am sure you will comment on in a later writing (and I realize you can’t cover it all in one article. . .there is just SO much in this chart) is the relatioship betwee Ceres and Pluto who are conjunct. I mean, she really detests the guy since he stole her baby, which makes it somewhat about reproduction in my mind.
Lastly, please discuss Vesta on the MH. She would make a fixed grand cross with Musicman’s t-square and with your emphasis on the money game going on with healthcare, her representation of investments (in financial astrology) is looking pretty important here. Looking forward, as we all are, to your next installment.
Musicman – it must be nice to be above it all ie: hate, anger. It is anger that stems from personal experience – eg: Nye Bevan – that can keep a person continually motivated to achieve something. In Bevan’s case, his own and other’s despair during his lifetime, was the sorrow at the root of it all, that insisted he fight those he viewed as enemies of his people. It is very naive to distance oneself from the real feelings of the public when issues such as this new health reform bill is occurring.
To ignore the past is to condemn the present and negate the future. We learn from the sorrow/anger of someone like Nevan Bye. Usually anger has other factors as its root. It is anger at the pain inflicted on other human beings that we need to keep in mind as we move forward to do whatever we can to come to a place where there is just one race. Anger is a valid emotion, just like love, fear, loneliness, happiness, etc. I don’t believe Nevan Bye was seething with anger as he spoke those words, but he was hellbent on getting health care for those that needed it.
To underestimate one’s enemies is a huge mistake. I’m not saying get down to that level, but at least acknowledge it, so as to understand it and more importantly, to accept it – ergo – a black congressman being called the N……word, and a gay congressman called a f……., just in the past few days in Washington, D.C.
While we have come very far from that type of mindset, we also have to remember that in some cases, we haven’t moved one inch. Life can be a battlefield sometimes, and to not know that is to walk into a minefield and be surprised when you lose your foot, leg or your life. We do not live in the land of Oz. There are people out there that are ugly on the inside and the outside. When you have been subjected to that ugliness then you might view things differently. If a person is accosted by a stranger with a weapon, there might not be time to wax philosophically, you can only go into survival mode. While hate can consume someone, so can apathy. I personally don’t live in the hate mode, but that doesn’t mean that the guy next to me doesn’t. And I would be a fool to not respect that and accept that. By saying I respect that just means that I acknowledge fully someone else’s pov and ensuing action on their part.
It may really come down to semantics. Hate usually stems from fear and ignorance. It is for the most part a wasted energy with long reaching effects. From father onto son.
It is also a great teacher and a great transformer. Sometimes we need to know someting up close and personal to understand it, try to change it and in the end, and for the higher good, rise above it.
Pandora,
From what I have read and heard, the reason the uninsured didn’t want this bill is because it lacked a public option. They didn’t understand that though it lacks it, it can be written in later as an amendment far easier than pushing it through on the first pass would have been. Getting any reform bill passed was the major hurdle; much like when medicare was originally passed, this bill will need amendments to make it better.
I was very angry at the media coverage that never explained that crucial detail to the public; that though the bill has no public option, a public option can be attached by amendent later. Sometimes I want to scream because media folks that I admire greatly (Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, etc.) don’t say the obvious or mention those important details that would get more people on the bandwagon for the reform.
I do agree with a poster that commented on yesterday’s NOW article; we need to vote out every incumbent. We need to keep track of who is voted in and how long they have been there and every six years, vote them out. Clean house and then enact term limits by attrition; that’s what we need to do and we need to let congress know we are doing that. Perhaps if they knew they had only six years to accomplish something and that they would not be re-elected after that, they might actually do the work they were voted into office for instead of wasting all their time trying to get re-elected.
That was an editing error. UK is first reference and should have been UK not England in second reference.
I would attune readers to editing issues (internal consistency) rather than factual issues. Please write to me or another pw editor and we’ll fix that kind of stuff. Thanks.
Musicman, I provided some background information on Nye Bevan for this article, including the quotation, which enabled Eric to give a flavour of the man to those who are not familiar with him. I’m quite upset to see it bring an accusation of “overtones of race hate.” The passage you’ve quoted to support your comment is a famous quotation from one of Nye Bevan’s speeches, and the Tories are not a race but a political party.
Musicman – my take on that article was not ‘that’s the way to do it’ but rather, here is an example of the tone of the struggle way back then in the UK, and something of the nature of the man who championed it.
Agree hatred is not the fuel for our future. Forgiveness (and understanding) has to be present. And on that note, I forgive you for referring to me in the collective as ‘ladies’!! I find that a very sexist and slightly condescending term (but that’s probably just me).
E – thought thanks for referencing Bevan and the beginning of the NHS. A wonderful service in my view, despite it’s problems. It has saved the ass of many I know.
PS. England just covers England, not Wales, Scotland, N Ireland – wasn’t sure what you meant when you referred to England.
Love H.
Thanks for your first analysis of this historical event. The past few weeks I have been surprised by the vehement opposition to this bill from people whom I would have never have expected it. It has been a very emotional issue– polarizing the citzens as you have noted. I have had the feeling that those opposed were healthy, with good jobs and/or health insurance.
But in fact yesterday on FB someone asked “What exactly is in the health care reform bill that you think will make things better for you? I really don’t get why people want this.” After my explanation as above, she said she had no insurance.
I hope you will address this dichotomy further in future posts.
Well …you are certainly on the edge this morning….!!
My take is that the executive order has no teeth. The Bill stands, and can be tweeked in 6 months when another round of political horse trading can be expected.
There are however, overtones of race hate in your article!
“That is why no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party [Churchill and the conservatives] that inflicted those bitter experiences on me. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin. They condemned millions of first-class people to semi-starvation.”
To use hate as a motivator is preaching the same poison that we would like to eradicate!! To err is human; to forgive, divine! We now know that all of the Social progress of that 1940s Labour movement has been traded for Blairs narcissism! It is only because of middle class Welsh intellectuals in the Judiciary and players like Neil Kinnock and Lord Jenkins that we now have a solid language based culture in Wales. This is being translated across into Scotland and Ireland!
As for the National Health Service; it will produce stories of personal experience both good and bad! The key feature is that we now really do have health care for all. A lot of dedicated hard work has gone into acheiving it! May you acheive a similar success!
Nye Bevan was a product, like Churchill, of a class system that evolved with particular venom during the reign of Queen Victoria. The bitterness of the Welsh struggle owes as much to the English education inspectors, who attempted to eradicate the Welsh language beginning in the 1850s, as it does to Bevan’s harnessing of the people for the working class political struggle. Political rhetoric is a tool that is commonly used by all parties!
Your anger is understandable. But is that not the dust cloud of past events that is overshadowing what should be a celebration?
The people have voted in a man who knows how to play this game to win!
Every time we doubt, we affirm that success. The truth of it is that the work really does start now! The Womans Right to Choose is in the ascendancy! For me, that chart is all about the Pallas Juno opposition on the Asc /Desc with a T to the Nessus Neptune Chiron cluster. We have to strip out the illusions, commit to a wise truth that perhaps the women would like to share with us, and take forward that fruitful union to a new frontier as that cluster in Aquarius moves into Pisces!! Saturn opp Sun is making sure that the game is a straight one! The deepest truth of all!
I’ll repeat what I just wrote in Lens disappearing morning blog.
Let Eris keep us all on the edge, because if you are not on the edge, you are taking up too much room.
Onwards
PH