CNN at about 1 am featuring "jubilant" crowds pouring in to the streets of Washington DC and Ground Zero in New York City. CNN's commentator is saying it's pure euphoria in the streets.
Sadge, I almost wanted to cry as I see the crowd through your loving understanding tolerant patient hopeful eyes. Yes. They do want to be part of… may your large loving spirit hug each one. They will be touched by an angel and be different and not know why. As Naomi Klein’s last statement was–the regular man and woman knows the truth–it is not the truth that has been lost it is that we have been numbed out of our senses–but we can be together turning a corner. Now… love to be holding hands with you. And jere, thanks for your sanity, man. don’t dance and don’t despair. we are bleeding into tomorrow which when we wake up will be today… perspective–big hearts…hidden genuine compassion…wow…what true power…
oh my GOODNESS
I just want to open my arms and stretch them crowd-length around these ‘jubilant’ revelers!
(just go with me here, I’m pretending they haven’t cut in footage from a different occasion, like we’ve seen with prev. news events-OR paid people, like they have before).
can’t you see? these people just want to feel good, connected, and united about something, and I’m trying to give them a hug. -they so obviously need compassion as they are lost. you know, so many people just so easily get caught up these days, I think it’s because they DO feel the energy, and want to be a part of a movement. so they are susceptible to manipulation, for sure if they don’t pay attention.
they aren’t bad people, hell, one of my friends tonight was all excited about the whole deal, and I was like – LISTEN to WHAT you are getting all happy and excited about-which would be killing of a human life-period. regardless of what he did or didn’t do, you are getting gleeful about tactical dudes (imagine their state of mind) infiltrating some compound with shoot to kill everyone mentality- I mean, supposedly one of his wives was killed, everyone there, right? anyway, it doesn’t take a vivid imagination to think of the chaotic state of mind / energy that surrounded the assassination event (stay with me, assuming it happened). and you want to perpetuate that energy, validate it, become all ecstatic about it?????
education. people need to be educated. they need to become more AWARE of where they are placing their thoughts, feelings, and hence, their energy. because I don’t think most people really WANT to be perpetuating this sick cycle of war, chaos, enemies, lies. etc.
misplaced emotions, misplaced actions as to what they are really looking for.
what to do. how do we talk to people one on one? dunno.
anyway, my thoughts on the sitch. I didn’t watch any of the news, just what is relayed to me.
Hugs Everyone!
peace.
Thanks for all the comments. I go to work and come home and find out the US started celebrating in the middle of the night–for what? It is so distastefully impalatable to me. He is dead. People are happy. Who is saying where is the Emepror’s clothes? What kind of power did people still ascribe to a man that might have masterminded something over 10 years ago and not much since. Now who will we hate and fear? Now who will the king be? What will Rove, and Frump & Co. contrive for us next?
What?! He died again??!!! It was very sad watching Obama on the news today repeating the lie…I was watching his face intently and concluded that he wasn’t comfortable doing it… when he got to the part about Bin Laden’s death, his eyes were filled with sadness and resignation – he was made to lie…the news and the lies are making me sick…stop the planet I want to get off!!!!
It comes down to this, folks aren’t ready to die for ‘themselves’. To kill is to feel an extension of ones own safety, a slap in the face of the ever ominous ‘death’ figure. But, it is still fear. Fear of being oneself. Fear based on attachment to a transitory position, with inertia being an engrained process.
To be able to ‘die for yourself’, you would require the understanding of the continuity of life.
You would have to understand that ALL of reality exists at the very moment you are. And in that, this reality is shaped by your action or not’s..
I hope to witness the day a gandhian soul comes along and is able to harness the flow to a peacefully, productive capacity. I’ll place the candles on the path.
In vigilance,
Jere
..Alright, the flag waving’s a bit much (as in seriously disturbing). But, a massive collective breath has just been taken.
I know the times, people, scenarios are different,.. but I feel like tangenting into a psychological realm here.. with a polar extreme..
Hitler. Dude was a dick. He died? Good. Shit, poor me a drink! Let’s dance! I can party at the thought of not having to deal with some out of control prick!
..Of course, there is the morning after..
This is collective ritual that breaks off layers of fear-shell. The pressures have been in the g-force realm for years now,.. oxygen is very stimulating.
..This is still ‘surface’. We won’t truly encounter the matter ’til we hit gandhi phase. But, the potential is ripe..
..Nothing has truly changed, yesterday bleeds into today, today into tomorrow, which by that time is today..
..We’ve all still got work to do. Don’t get out of control, and don’t despair.
Love,
Jere
Sorry for various punctuation gaffs and typos guys – still a bit sleepy here. That should of course be ‘deepening wound’… Glad PW is on the case as a voice of reason. I just hear the body has been dumped at sea – convenient…
I don’t know the official rules, but I don’t think the vertex has enough substance to save Luna from the Void. Void in Aries no less. Maybe GC counts?
Off the top of my head, since I just woke up in the UK…No sense of joy here. No celebration. Just a very uncomfortable sense that the US has declared war – though not formally – and the rest of us will have to deal with the consequences. I’m just so weary of it all: the posturing, the imitation, the hollow victories paraded around in the press as if they were meaningful, the stage managing, the same disgusting tales told by the same disgusting idiots. Who would celebrate a deliberate act of murder? Obama’s speech made me feel sick to my stomach. “No American’s were harmed…” – except for the deepening would to the psyche of the nation, really all nations that sanction this kind of thing.
call me naive, but i cannot celebrate a killing. what a devolution . . .
Has anyone heard a single news commenter questioning why they killed instead of capturing, whether that was the plan, or it just worked out that way? I haven’t, so far.
Obama said tonight that his order to Panetta when he took office was to “kill or capture” Bin Laden. He also said “Last week I… authorized an operation to get Osama Bin Laden and bring him to justice.” But he and/or his speechwriters didn’t seem to think it necessary to explain the death outcome tonight. I get the sense he’s basking in this opportunity to swagger. And everyone’s just like YAAAAAYY FUCK YEAH!!! Who is in charge of our karmic accountability? Where are the adults?
Terrific comments from Richard.
There are fireworks going off here in Brooklyn. It’s all a bit unsettling. I’m not a “truther,” but this feels like it should be a time for contemplation and critical thinking, not for revelry.
Thank you to Richard for that comment. I believe it is in the interests of somebody(s) to continue to inflame those passions that fuel that feedback loop of “imitation”. I believe that many people would see through some of this, find weariness at all the excess of violence, find something in themselves that wants a different way forward, were it not for the continued ramping up of the adrenalin and the messages bombarding everyone telling them how to feel, how to react, what to think…….
Kyla:
Not sure if its real or staged. What I do feel is that it feels out of place with all the senseless loss we’ve experienced stemming from 9-11 and the lies leading up to the Iraq war.
This is an odd celebration to say the least, and as I watch I feel disgusted. We may cheer because we feel relief and the purported enemy is dead, but the trail leading to this night too costly to feel anything but a Pyrrhic victory.
The mechanism of violence depends on imitation… good guys and bad guys all imitate each other in the violence and the rivalry they each display to demonstrate who is right, justified, blessed by God. All this in order to eliminate the “other” who threatens the well-being of the particular immortality project that is held…by each side.
It is insanity….each side is involved in the same mimetic trap….each side imitating the other…..no one ever wins…..
Enlightened persons have unmasked this mechanism…..paying back no evil for evil….
May we stay vigilant lest we unwittingly fall into this violence…
all the best,
Richard
I second that Kyla! A phantom man.
I’ve occasionally wondered if a bin Laden is (was) a real person. I mean, he certainly was a convenient item in the scripted drama of the Warring Powers. He served them well! Perhaps he was even created to do so — you know, some guy’s face got chosen and lots of images got created and all sorts of things to support belief in the existence of this wily “enemy of all that’s good”….
I find I wonder the same thing about the supposed crowds of supposedly jubilant people.
Nothing about this feels real. Maybe that’s an effect of that void moon, but even if that’s an influence in this feeling of unreality, that isn’t all there is to it……
This entire thing feels staged. I may wish I had not said that but boy is it ever a strong feeling right now!
Wait, where’s their “protest permit”?
Why aren’t they in the Free Speech Area?
american public: easily distracted, easily misled. And death as a sport…
Sadge, I almost wanted to cry as I see the crowd through your loving understanding tolerant patient hopeful eyes. Yes. They do want to be part of… may your large loving spirit hug each one. They will be touched by an angel and be different and not know why. As Naomi Klein’s last statement was–the regular man and woman knows the truth–it is not the truth that has been lost it is that we have been numbed out of our senses–but we can be together turning a corner. Now… love to be holding hands with you. And jere, thanks for your sanity, man. don’t dance and don’t despair. we are bleeding into tomorrow which when we wake up will be today… perspective–big hearts…hidden genuine compassion…wow…what true power…
oh my GOODNESS
I just want to open my arms and stretch them crowd-length around these ‘jubilant’ revelers!
(just go with me here, I’m pretending they haven’t cut in footage from a different occasion, like we’ve seen with prev. news events-OR paid people, like they have before).
can’t you see? these people just want to feel good, connected, and united about something, and I’m trying to give them a hug. -they so obviously need compassion as they are lost. you know, so many people just so easily get caught up these days, I think it’s because they DO feel the energy, and want to be a part of a movement. so they are susceptible to manipulation, for sure if they don’t pay attention.
they aren’t bad people, hell, one of my friends tonight was all excited about the whole deal, and I was like – LISTEN to WHAT you are getting all happy and excited about-which would be killing of a human life-period. regardless of what he did or didn’t do, you are getting gleeful about tactical dudes (imagine their state of mind) infiltrating some compound with shoot to kill everyone mentality- I mean, supposedly one of his wives was killed, everyone there, right? anyway, it doesn’t take a vivid imagination to think of the chaotic state of mind / energy that surrounded the assassination event (stay with me, assuming it happened). and you want to perpetuate that energy, validate it, become all ecstatic about it?????
education. people need to be educated. they need to become more AWARE of where they are placing their thoughts, feelings, and hence, their energy. because I don’t think most people really WANT to be perpetuating this sick cycle of war, chaos, enemies, lies. etc.
misplaced emotions, misplaced actions as to what they are really looking for.
what to do. how do we talk to people one on one? dunno.
anyway, my thoughts on the sitch. I didn’t watch any of the news, just what is relayed to me.
Hugs Everyone!
peace.
Thanks for all the comments. I go to work and come home and find out the US started celebrating in the middle of the night–for what? It is so distastefully impalatable to me. He is dead. People are happy. Who is saying where is the Emepror’s clothes? What kind of power did people still ascribe to a man that might have masterminded something over 10 years ago and not much since. Now who will we hate and fear? Now who will the king be? What will Rove, and Frump & Co. contrive for us next?
What?! He died again??!!! It was very sad watching Obama on the news today repeating the lie…I was watching his face intently and concluded that he wasn’t comfortable doing it… when he got to the part about Bin Laden’s death, his eyes were filled with sadness and resignation – he was made to lie…the news and the lies are making me sick…stop the planet I want to get off!!!!
It comes down to this, folks aren’t ready to die for ‘themselves’. To kill is to feel an extension of ones own safety, a slap in the face of the ever ominous ‘death’ figure. But, it is still fear. Fear of being oneself. Fear based on attachment to a transitory position, with inertia being an engrained process.
To be able to ‘die for yourself’, you would require the understanding of the continuity of life.
You would have to understand that ALL of reality exists at the very moment you are. And in that, this reality is shaped by your action or not’s..
I hope to witness the day a gandhian soul comes along and is able to harness the flow to a peacefully, productive capacity. I’ll place the candles on the path.
In vigilance,
Jere
..Alright, the flag waving’s a bit much (as in seriously disturbing). But, a massive collective breath has just been taken.
I know the times, people, scenarios are different,.. but I feel like tangenting into a psychological realm here.. with a polar extreme..
Hitler. Dude was a dick. He died? Good. Shit, poor me a drink! Let’s dance! I can party at the thought of not having to deal with some out of control prick!
..Of course, there is the morning after..
This is collective ritual that breaks off layers of fear-shell. The pressures have been in the g-force realm for years now,.. oxygen is very stimulating.
..This is still ‘surface’. We won’t truly encounter the matter ’til we hit gandhi phase. But, the potential is ripe..
..Nothing has truly changed, yesterday bleeds into today, today into tomorrow, which by that time is today..
..We’ve all still got work to do. Don’t get out of control, and don’t despair.
Love,
Jere
Sorry for various punctuation gaffs and typos guys – still a bit sleepy here. That should of course be ‘deepening wound’… Glad PW is on the case as a voice of reason. I just hear the body has been dumped at sea – convenient…
I don’t know the official rules, but I don’t think the vertex has enough substance to save Luna from the Void. Void in Aries no less. Maybe GC counts?
Off the top of my head, since I just woke up in the UK…No sense of joy here. No celebration. Just a very uncomfortable sense that the US has declared war – though not formally – and the rest of us will have to deal with the consequences. I’m just so weary of it all: the posturing, the imitation, the hollow victories paraded around in the press as if they were meaningful, the stage managing, the same disgusting tales told by the same disgusting idiots. Who would celebrate a deliberate act of murder? Obama’s speech made me feel sick to my stomach. “No American’s were harmed…” – except for the deepening would to the psyche of the nation, really all nations that sanction this kind of thing.
call me naive, but i cannot celebrate a killing. what a devolution . . .
Has anyone heard a single news commenter questioning why they killed instead of capturing, whether that was the plan, or it just worked out that way? I haven’t, so far.
Obama said tonight that his order to Panetta when he took office was to “kill or capture” Bin Laden. He also said “Last week I… authorized an operation to get Osama Bin Laden and bring him to justice.” But he and/or his speechwriters didn’t seem to think it necessary to explain the death outcome tonight. I get the sense he’s basking in this opportunity to swagger. And everyone’s just like YAAAAAYY FUCK YEAH!!! Who is in charge of our karmic accountability? Where are the adults?
Terrific comments from Richard.
There are fireworks going off here in Brooklyn. It’s all a bit unsettling. I’m not a “truther,” but this feels like it should be a time for contemplation and critical thinking, not for revelry.
Thank you to Richard for that comment. I believe it is in the interests of somebody(s) to continue to inflame those passions that fuel that feedback loop of “imitation”. I believe that many people would see through some of this, find weariness at all the excess of violence, find something in themselves that wants a different way forward, were it not for the continued ramping up of the adrenalin and the messages bombarding everyone telling them how to feel, how to react, what to think…….
Kyla:
Not sure if its real or staged. What I do feel is that it feels out of place with all the senseless loss we’ve experienced stemming from 9-11 and the lies leading up to the Iraq war.
This is an odd celebration to say the least, and as I watch I feel disgusted. We may cheer because we feel relief and the purported enemy is dead, but the trail leading to this night too costly to feel anything but a Pyrrhic victory.
The mechanism of violence depends on imitation… good guys and bad guys all imitate each other in the violence and the rivalry they each display to demonstrate who is right, justified, blessed by God. All this in order to eliminate the “other” who threatens the well-being of the particular immortality project that is held…by each side.
It is insanity….each side is involved in the same mimetic trap….each side imitating the other…..no one ever wins…..
Enlightened persons have unmasked this mechanism…..paying back no evil for evil….
May we stay vigilant lest we unwittingly fall into this violence…
all the best,
Richard
I second that Kyla! A phantom man.
I’ve occasionally wondered if a bin Laden is (was) a real person. I mean, he certainly was a convenient item in the scripted drama of the Warring Powers. He served them well! Perhaps he was even created to do so — you know, some guy’s face got chosen and lots of images got created and all sorts of things to support belief in the existence of this wily “enemy of all that’s good”….
I find I wonder the same thing about the supposed crowds of supposedly jubilant people.
Nothing about this feels real. Maybe that’s an effect of that void moon, but even if that’s an influence in this feeling of unreality, that isn’t all there is to it……
This entire thing feels staged. I may wish I had not said that but boy is it ever a strong feeling right now!
Wait, where’s their “protest permit”?
Why aren’t they in the Free Speech Area?
american public: easily distracted, easily misled. And death as a sport…