But his pants are down, his cover’s blown…
And the politicians throwin’ stones,
So the kids they dance
And shake their bones,
And it’s all too clear we’re on our own.
Singing ashes, ashes, all fall down.— Throwing Stones, by John Perry Barlow and Bob Weir / The Grateful Dead
Note I’ve added a small listing of minor planets lower down in the article.
WikiLeaks, a web-based organization that publishes classified and secret documents, has posted a set of new government documents as of yesterday evening. This is another rare moment of transparency in a world that is moving toward ever-greater secrecy and control. Much of that is based around technology; it was not long ago that only entities such as the government or The New York Times newsroom could so much as send a fax. Today, we can access FindLaw from a Droid while riding the subway. We can be photographed naked going through airport security. So the control game is mostly about technology (but the search still comes down to the frisk, the only useful cop is one who understands some psychology, and frankly if you’re looking for explosives dogs get the job done best).
So here in the pre-climactic throes of our technological adolescence, it’s fitting that we have the Virgo Moon ascending over the chart for the earliest reported time that the documents were available. I’ve used the location of Stockholm because that’s where PRG, Wikipedia’s primary host is located, and Sweden is the country that has jurisdiction over the project.
Many other websites have been commenting on the content of the leak, though it would take months or years to properly assess a quarter million pages of material (that much is unreleased, so far, and will be posted gradually). I understand that this is a genre of work that is aimed at the diplomatic community. These are the meat and potatoes of day-to-day communication among embassies and diplomats, and you can be sure that there are some real gems in there. One of my favorites is how the past two secretaries of state, Madame Secretary Rice and Madame Secretary Clinton, ordered their diplomats to spy on other diplomats — including obtaining hair samples for the DNA database if possible.
Remember that embassies are notoriously secretive, and the contents of diplomatic relations are protected six ways from Sunday. I recall hearing the story of an embassy employee who risked attack by a lion rather than give up her diplomatic pouch. And embassies are one of the best places for leaks. During the early part of WWII, the U.S. embassy in London, under the stewardship of Joe Kennedy Sr. (JFK’s dad) was a direct leak to the Third Reich; yes, it’s history that JFK’s dad was a down home red-blooded all American Nazi collaborator. So Roosevelt had to route all sensitive communications to Churchill and others around the embassy, and meanwhile you can be sure they piped all kinds of bullshit past Joe’s desk so it would get into enemy hands.
The materials WikiLeaks has published offer anyone who wants to find out an idea what people in power will say or do when they think nobody else is listening or think they’re they’re not going to get caught. And that is almost always the case. It really is amazing: the pure stupidity of it all, and the depravity that is revealed as being so integral to the game. It is true that this will cause problems for diplomats (how severe is questionable) and that it’s certainly embarrassing. But for all we’ve been lied to about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan I think we can actually do better than this. Daniel Ellsberg, who released the Pentagon Papers, was an example of a person with access to high-level policy decisions who — at enormous effort and risk — broke the truth out.
This issue is about communications, so let’s consider Mercury — look at that thing, conjunct the Galactic Core at 27+ Sagittarius. It’s a LOT of information, from a deep source, with cosmic impact. When you think of the GC think of a place that is as bright at night as it is during the day — during daylight, from the nearest star; at night, from all the other stars clustered nearby. Align Mercury with that and we have a ‘message from the cosmos’ or ‘the voice of the heavens’. Remember that speech in Clinton’s cabinet room by Palmer Joss in the film Contact? Paraphrasing here — he tells the Christian fundamentalist adviser to the president, I beg to differ but this is the voice of heaven, if the term has any meaning at all.
One aspect that gleams out of this chart is Mars in Sagittarius square Jupiter in Pisces; it’s within a degree in this chart, leaning right into that square — Mars applying to Jupiter, so the aspect is hot and happening, and bristling with the quest for social justice (particularly from Sagittarius to Aquarius). This raw quest for truth is precise and it calls one of the themes of the moment. You have to admit, those WikLeaks people have some fuckin’ balls to do this. Call them whatever you want; it takes nerve to do this kind of work. I say this having tasted approximately one teaspoon of what they do as standard fare: revealing dangerous, damning documents that expose a deep layer of the truth and the denial that veiled it.
On this note, to my mind, the really interesting gem in this chart is Chiron conjunct Neptune. There is your moment of transparency in the shortest shorthand of astrology. In a chart such as this one that is not only a single historic event, but also an event that defines the tone and theme of an era in history, we want slow-moving planets in a tight aspect that really tell the story. True — we also want slow moving planets in aspect that define a very wide cycle of history, and we have those, but this kind of pointed but era-defining event deserves precision. And we find that in Chiron conjunct Neptune in Aquarius. That aspect is at its third (as close as it gets) conjunction; the cycle last repeated in 1945 and is now in a series of contacts that are ending with the current near-miss but very close precise conjunction.
You need Chiron for this kind of willingness to be daring and step out. You need Neptune for this kind of all-permeating ‘uncensorable’ power — and certainly dramatic and cinematic…how long before the WikiLeaks story is made into a movie? You can be sure script writers and directors are lusting for it.
Aquarius defines the theme of social consciousness, technology, the application and use of technology, the public (but only a specific portion of it that cares, mainly those who access the Internet) and then the elite diplomatic corps itself. Chiron conjunct Neptune is the fog clearing. Neptune in Aquarius represents the ubiquitous presence of technology around us and how it has morphed into a dream, full of contradictions (we are ‘obsessed with privacy’ and then post the details of our private lives to Facebook). Chiron comes along and shakes us out of denial; wakes us up to the reality of the situation; cuts through the grease and the fog and the smog and the ‘cloud’ (a Neptune descriptor that also describes an aspect of the Internet).
Technology has been thrust upon us so fast and so thoroughly that we have barely done even the most cursory assessment of what it means, how it influences us, how it affects our thoughts, and so on. In fact this plunge has been so thorough, thinking about it would feel like writing an essay about water the moment you fell overboard. I guess you could tweet: Sudden sensation; completely soaked; data and multimedia everywhere; not sure where my mind is.
Not to go too far off topic of the WikiLeaks thing but it’s very much a direct attribute of this world. The fact that this data is available, and that it’s available on your iPhone while you’re having a sushi dinner in Tokyo, are closely related. And with that Mercury conjunct the GC (something we won’t really understand till we go there) it’s overwhelming information, and few people grasp its total content, but — the truth is available. Notably, the documents go back as far as 1966. Some will shed light on the Vietnam War.
In the next post I will look at the asteroids. I’ve had a little help from the Maestro of Asteroids herself on this one, and from the Dean of Astrological Programming herself as well.
EF – That corroborates what I’ve heard, that the databases are now cross-linked across the agencies, which from a communications security standpoint is absurdly leaky. I heard on the BBC tonight that the State Department is now restricting access by DOD, although that is akin to closing the barn door after the cow is out. I think more agencies will withdraw access like this, and the ability to pull messages across the systems will shrink greatly as a result of this current escapade.
It is nuts that a lone E-4 (then a Specialist, now Private First Class Manning) would have had access to that much information, no matter what his job was. Compared to the Cold War days of my enlistment, I’m surprised that we have any secrets left given this sort of cross-access. Consider this: as a communicator, I had a “Top Secret NATO Cosmic” security clearance, one of the highest possible in the Coast Guard at the time. We basically saw every message coming into our command, which was the Commander of the Pacific Area for the Coast Guard. With one exception: I couldn’t even look at (much less read) the messages the officers next door received on a completely separate system that disseminated military movements and data from the Pentagon. The officers would take the files and shred them themselves, rather than have we enlisted types see them. It was fairly raw data and information, not juicy at all: I did manage to see some of it, in spite of the restrictions. It really wasn’t very interesting, just obsessively military. Funny thing: as one of Mercury’s earthly underlings, I have Mercury in conjunction to my natal Aquarian sun, same house in fact. Yes, I talk a lot, write a lot too…
But, I must look at this from my older viewpoint of the now: it mostly seems like a lot of pies on faces right now, with plenty of embarrassment to go around, not just here in the US. Is it right? I think so – it’s time for us to see what “they” do and say in our name, and for us to hold them accountable for wrongful actions (Bush ought to be in the Hague on trial…and his little dog Dick too. Just sayin’).
Enough for tonight. Night all!
Brendan, from what I have heard, the information sharing stuff that came in after 911 gave agencies access to one another’s files. That’s as far as I know re Manning.
Brendan,
Thank you for your contribution regarding the denial of service volume/rate and especially for your insight on how access is compartmentalized, USG-wise. That helps my own thinking process.
A couple of points here:
Len: I would agree with Amanda on the denial of service attack, pretty much anyone can do one, but with a rate of 10 Gigabits per second that’s a fairly big bunch of service requests jamming the site. State player? Internet trolls? Probably not the USG, too many fingerprints are possible. I’m thinking patriotic black-hat hackers here.
EF and all: I’m concerned about the source of the State Department “cables.” In my past experience working with such things, there is most likely no way that Brad Manning, the Army intel analyst, would have had access to such message traffic. Normally he would be limited to Army/Defense traffic alone, and a very limited number of State messages – ones that concerned Defense too. From what I understand, these are for the most part State Department entities only. Most of this stuff would never be sent to Defense, they simply don’t need to know this level of chatter. State would tell Defense what State wants Defense to know, and not everything under the sun.
The key military/industrial complex phrase used in such matters is “the need to know.” If you don’t need to know it, you will not know it. Compartmentalization is the name of the game, and if Brad Manning had access to these State-only messages, then message security is shot, and everyone else already knows what is going on.
I don’t doubt Manning’s release of the Iraq/Afghan documents, but I have my doubts as to whether these State Department diplomatic messages are part of his work. Am I correct in reading that somewhere there are documents from the Viet Nam era (1966) as part of the entire package? If that is indeed the case, there is no way Manning would have access, ever – no way that someone has been continuously circulating memos from 1966 (44 years?!?) until now. That is archival stuff, with no relevance to our times.
If not Manning, then who? A new Daniel Ellsberg, within State, wanting to blow the lid off the last few years. Perhaps someone with a Saturn Return, who simply couldn’t take it any more?
/backs away from the keyboard, takes off old uniform hat, and resets brainwaves to “now”/
Amanda,
Thank you for your answer regarding the denial of service attack. So, you are saying the volume and rate are no big deal?
Just read this on the Guardian site re. Interpol and Julian Assange.
It contains his birthdate etc — should anyone wish to do his chart.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/nov/30/interpol-wanted-notice-julian-assange
hey len — my understanding of the denial of service attack is that any geeky hacker (or group of them) could do it. i forget at this point where i read about it yesterday, but it sounds like fairly basic hacker stuff if you know how — not especially sophisticated. you wouldn’t need corporate resources or governmental clearance, etc.
and there are those who do stuff like this just cuz they can, with no real agenda — just brats or maybe people who think the leak is the wrong idea. though of course, that does not rule out those with an agenda and resources.
Len, you are a dear. Group hug with all three of us!
😉
shebear – Thank you for the beautiful words and thoughtful synopsis. You are an inspiration to me.
Oops – mistaken identity. Love you both
yeti – Thank you for the beautiful words and thoughtful synopsis. You are an inspiration to me.
In response to the email of 12.06 p.m: I’m grateful and relieved to see the veil of secrecy which usually enshrouds the political con artists of our world, pulled back once and for all through the WL cable releases. It’s refreshing to see the nefarious workings of various establishments and systems, which have smugly controlled our various governmental agendas for the greedy dictates of the *few*, to see them receiving necessary world wide public exposure and transparency for *the many* to see. Governments and politicians who have been blithely cruising on secretive dealings and seductive power forever, never thinking for a second that a day might come when they’d be exposed and their subterfuge pushed front and centre, now get to feel a chill blow around them, naked emperors and empresses that they really are.
Because we have an operation achieving what Julian Assange and WL is doing to date, providing a world wide wake up call at the ready, I just can’t see that this new energy has a destructive agenda but instead, potentially, a more constructive one. The political players can’t continue to hide amongst themselves like they are accustomed to doing, and as collective seekers of truth, we can work alongside organizations such as WL and other whistleblowers, helping to keep their work supported and our politicians more honest. Exposing the players instead of enabling them further by our apathy and silence like we have done to date, we get a chance to evolve and as Eric coined it, “fall in love with the truth” because it IS a beautiful and empowering thing to do.
Surely we can’t continue to support our crumbling systems but instead consciously learn to channel Pluto’s transformative vibes, creating in each new moment afforded us, that caring, more truthful society we need right away. It absolutely begins with ourselves first and foremost, through our moving away from paralyzing fears and shame, toward a light of courage and growth. If we question the constructive energy that birthed these leaks, choosing not to ENVISION a bold, new paradigm (Jupiter) nor to act courageously on pursuing and creating it (MARS), then we continue to allow our entrenched, narrow, and destructive fears to remain and not risk being in a brave new world. By giving over to our apprehensions, we perpetuate those old guard systems that are literally choking the life out of us, and by allowing them to continue, chances are that we’ll all head willy nilly down the plug-hole to who knows where?
So, as not end on that negative note however, I would share this Joseph Campbell quote that I stumbled upon a few hours ago:
“Nietzsche was the one who did the job for me. At a certain moment in his life, the idea came to him of what he called “the love of your fate.” Whatever your fate is, whatever the hell happens, you say, “this is what I need.” It may look like a wreck, but go at it as though it were an opportunity, a challenge. If you bring love to the moment – not discouragement – you will find the strength is there……..”
Interesting discussion fer sure. Seems that if we take our recently updated way of hearing things, we know that there is some force behind Assange. And whatever the agenda of that organization – and whether or not Assange knows he is being “used”* — truths are seeping to the surface creating an opportunity for positive change – if we are awake and ready.
*he would not still be alive and active otherwise.
Got a question (November 30) for anybody out there who might know. Associated Press report today says the WikiLeaks website is under a “distributed denial of service attack” with an incoming volume of 10 gigabits per second. Please, what does this mean as far as potential sources for the attack? Is this something anyone could do or would it require resources that few have access to?
EFC suggested — “Someone, pick one of the cables and let’s discuss it. Let’s do something. You have the wits and skills to work with this material. Post it here…and let’s get the conversation going.”
A fine idea Maestro…
Eric (and e-mail respondant),
::::Ah-Ha moment:::: Maybe we NEED the fear and later healing anger these documents bring out. People are rarely moved to change unless they have an impetus; healing anger is often one such impetus. Could these leaking truths be the fuel that feeds the rising anger that’s already there?
Hi Eric, i am just a sharing a thought that crossed my mind today in the mist of the leaking of diplomatic information happening so close to the North Korea scenario and that is… why is this coming out now? what is the agenda behind it? who benefits from making the world more unstable each day? i do not feel the purpose is to get the “truth” out, or to benefit “the people” with the truth. i have a fishy gut feeling about this. I think there is an agenda to make the world unsafe and to sustain and feed all the new age prophetic script running wild. I feel there is a huge Neptune collective trance of escapism with this “end of the world” thing. The negativity is taking all the energy away from the real crisis, which is financial. This diplomatic gossip is moving the focus, or unfocusing, where our real attention should be geared at. This Neptune Chiron conjunction is about focus… on what? Aquarius is also about unconditional love experienced through community. Anything that seeds fear is oriented toward destroying any attempt of unity. The political and social communities have lost a lot of ground these past decades, so we are now conquering the community of the soul and of love experienced through pure internal energy and connection . This is the seed of the positive and creative change we are dreaming and healing for humanity. Anything that takes our attention and energy away from this collective focus of unconditional love is, i feel, part of a destructive agenda. Now, I said it. I hope we can share a common idea here, as i trust we also share a common arrow coming and going from the Galactic Core.
My reply
That is a good point. But I don’t think it (necessarily) negates the transparency of the truth being revealed; after all it was lie after lie that got us into Irak. It was lie after lie that let the banks and credit cards run away with the world’s wealth. and pour it into private hands, and speculation. So now we have a little homeopathic truth coming out.
I don’t think WikiLeaks is CIA. I think that it’s the social/grassroots opposition to the intelligence movement. Though, I think the question is worth asking, who is behind this (seems like Brad Manning, an intelligence analyst, has been their main source, though there are corporate documents coming out of a major US bank). I am going to guess that WikiLeaks has their way of verifying that they are not dealing with spies. But — I’m not there so I don’t know how they do it, but I surely think they go through that thought process. I see it as a natural push back against the deception. (Did you read my diary about SUNY New Paltz PCBs and the mafia? I can send it if you missed it…)
As for positive focus — is it possible to trust CNN with that? Or Fox? I think we can definitely critique the corporate agenda and how it benefits from deception and divisiveness. But then we have the limbic system of journalism, which is almost always about focusing on the negative. Using myself as an example for the one time it might work — I did various forms of conventional journalism till my Saturn return. When I got to the point that my vibration could not handle that negativity, I jumped to astrology, and resumed journalism a couple of years later from a whole new angle.
To do that, I had to step outside the prior system; colonize a different network (alt magazines, and especially the Internet when it was young and flexible) and then day after day reinvent journalism. That kind of individual change may be necessary if we are going to change the tenor of the news. Do you watch Rachel Maddow? I think she’s as good as it gets these days — she’s smart, compassionate and funny. She and her mentor Keith see the irony. They are not taking solutions yet. They’re not encouraging revolution of the heart yet, but in a certain way they are demonstrating that it’s beautiful to be in love with the truth, which means — not scared of how the world is, but ready to face the challenges, first, of knowledge…
Mercury on the Galactic Core was encouraging, I thought.
xef
Carrie – I think that we need to give the truth a chance to be a catalyst.
Someone, pick one of the cables and let’s discuss it. Let’s do something. You have the wits and skills to work with this material. Post it here…and let’s get the conversation going.
“And I also wonder how much of a distraction this could cause — i mean we’re talking about enourmous amounts of what amounts to twitters of heads calling each other’s buffs. And opening it up to both the people and the press who both really need to be aware of the larger arena of what is brewing out there.
I havent spent time looking at the stuff, cause frankly I dont have the time, but …
I think we need to be really cautious about this…..”
My point exactly, hypnotic. Sure, a lot of good people may have the time to look at “the stuff” but I wonder is that enough? If the hoards are not able or willing to look at all that stuff, then how can it serve the purpose of change? Call me a pessimist; the last leak made a small rumble but the dust died down pretty quickly. Maybe it is just that the hoards are incapable of keeping their attention on anything important for long? Not to be offensive; I am glad WL is doing this because maybe eventually it will help bring about change.
Eric:
As a scorpion, the gears are working overtime. I also smell a rat, but some of your’s and Lens clues have not been acknowledged as yet. First off, your clue of the house of the FATHER. Len’s clue of who has been in hiding, and will be um heard of for the winter months. Drunkeness is another clue. And even your clue way back when hurricane Katrina hit, for the black population of Louisianna, you said the chart read of black gold erupting – oil. Who does have a problem with a black president, and a secretary of state named Clinton?
Here is some China for you
Sent in by Carol van Strum
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11871641?print=true
There is a tradition in the presidency of not destroying the prior president, so that one does not destroy the office itself. And, because the new pres and the old pres have most of the same campaign donors, and are the figurehead of the same pre-existing establishment.
Also any president since JFK has a gun to his head. He has to go along with the banks, the national security machine and the mafia, or it’s curtains. Um who shot JFK? Oh yeah, this lone dude with an $8 bolt action (fully manual) rifle from the 5th floor of some building…um why did Nixon not only go to Dallas that day but LIE that he was there, oops except for an AP photo that puts him on the ground that day.
So there is only so much a president can do, and in many respects the actual policies of Dems and Pubs are not that different; look at Vietnam, two Dems, two Pubs; but as Ralph Nader or someone pointed out, the difference is that Dems will respond to public pressure whereas Pubs will not. Yes, Nixon ended Vietnam after wildly expanding it to Laos and Cambodia, while his presidency was drowning in scandal.
Clinton was an ass. I believe that at best he was a murderer, and not just with fighter planes — Billary went to a lot of funerals during the first term; they were always going to another funeral. But the commercial Internet — the only thing currently between us and tyranny — arose on his watch, and he let it happen. So there are subtle differences, worth working with. But the moment we give up…well…people soaked in unlimited money, unbridled power and all the juicy Ivy League 19-year-old cunt and dick you or I or anyone ever dreamed of (that is, congressmen, and lots and lots of interns) have no incentive whatsoever to do anything.
Yes we should know the truth about the UFO coverup, the JFK murder and Sept. 11. But honestly, for what we, the citizens, invest in our Republic, do we really deserve anything more than we have now?
Someone, convince me.
Waitin’ for the day someone leaks the truth behind 9/11. My wish when Obama was elected was that he would shine a light so bright up Cheney’s and Bush’s arses that the truth would be written in the skies. But now the song that comes to mind when I think of Obama is “Stayin’ Alive.” Stayin’ alive may be the best he can hope for (for his family and himself) but I have a theory that should he be in a position to facilitate this particular leak, it might be what could save his presidency, if not his soul.
hypnotic,
Exactly. Give yourself credit, young lady, from this perch you are plugged in and have found voice for it (and the courage to use that voice). Perhaps we should ask questions of the questioners.
In the meantime there is a lot of documentation from Hubble and other telescopes that nobody has looked at. For all we know somebody out there could be waving at us, saying cheese, making rabbit ears. Would we not feel silly if we put so much time and labor into sorting through diplomatic cables and missed Contact?
Just sayin’….
Think of all the jobs this could create for out-of-work librarians and journalists, translators and indexers, secretaries, academics and advocates, researchers and webtechie types….sorting all this stuff out and making it all sorts of …able ( …readable, sortable, moveable, blogable, researchable, litigatable, censorable, prosicutable, verifiable and translatable…) …
dream on…
hypnotic,
Your points about being cautious and the sense of satire are very, very, very good observations. Perhaps explaining how the chart seems a bit wonky, vacuous even. Do we smell a rat in Sweden? Does WikiLeaks have implants (seriously)? Or have we simply become jacked up and jaded, not satisfied and perhaps that’s where the caution should be. Perhaps we should be cautious about what we ask for. Perhaps it is not too soon to consider Saturn opposed Eris.
how funny that this happened while Leslie Nielson passed….
is there satire in this chart?
sorry my post was written before I saw the previous 3 posts….
There is no doubt that this current leak will have a strong impact, though it is yet to be seen in what form. So, I have a lot of questions.
At this point I dont sense that it has the same impact of transparency that the first leaks did concerning the war. I dont really know what “cables” are, but on the way home from work listening to NPR, I heard a lot of what sounded like something out of tabloid International Enquirer. A lot of talk about national leaders being “a bit upset” at having their private conversations disclosed. And none of it struck me as new, but kind of funny actually. It reminded me of the telephone party line phenom that happened in the 70s when you could pick up the phone and listen to other peoples conversations without doing a damn thing. Anyway, on the NPR spot, what I heard was the biggest concern was diplomacy and trust. But of course, they are caught with their britches down.
So, I wonder, how this might actually push secrecy into further recesses behind closed doors.
As a pre-view to the Wikileaks disclosure, I was under the impression that we would be getting inside information about Iran and Iraq. But all this is still being filtered. And what we are left with is something about someone saying Putin and the Mafia control of Russia (What?! Really?) …
And I also wonder how much of a distraction this could cause — i mean we’re talking about enourmous amounts of what amounts to twitters of heads calling each other’s buffs. And opening it up to both the people and the press who both really need to be aware of the larger arena of what is brewing out there.
I havent spent time looking at the stuff, cause frankly I dont have the time, but …
I think we need to be really cautious about this…..
He leaks what comes in; when the time is right. The documents must have a verifiable source and be authenticated. To do that the WL editors (and everyone else, such as reporters) have to read the language they are in.
I daresay that the Western capitalist machine, focused on Wall Street, needs all the leaking it can get. We have watched the United States trample the rights of the world under the guise of saving it.
We could say plenty about China via the files of the Federal Reserve. I am sure their time will come. It’s the biggest mess of them all.
I look forward to when he leaks China, Russia, Iran directly
and goes after human rights issues. I am sure that there is a
treasure trove with those censors.
Also – why not the tea parties, Koch brothers , FOX news, and Ms Palin …
Maybe this is the awakening of Pluto in Capricorn.
But my question is – what happens when Neptune and Chiron grace Pisces………
Olbermann was reporting tonight that all 250,000 were published. He said that the next batch will involve a “major American bank” that Assange says read “like the Enron emails.”
Eric,
Okay, i will hold my asteroid horses give Tracy that room. Instead:
(1) A loaded fourth house implies some figurative terms such as “where they live”, “come home to roost”, “hits home”, etc. Please have you known hoary charts to emulate such a wry, dry sense of humor (almost like dreams do)?
(2) i’m still studying your “Revelation” chart from the previous Sunday (along with the “Event” and “Progressed”). Now i will add this to the mix. Give me time, there is something there but i gotta wrap my pea brain around it.
(3) Odd about the 9th and 10th houses. “Been there, done that”? something missing – maybe that’s where the asteroids come in.
EFC: “Contact”?
and just so I’ve said it: “WHAHOO!!!!”
Lovn’ the Leaks.
Thank Pisces I have Virgo skeletons in MY closet; spiffy clean – and organized.
yeti – Thank you. i completely agree with you calling “bullshit” on the attitude that we should blindly follow whre “experts” and authority lead. For my entire life (ever since the Jurassic era when i was a boy) that has always led to trouble. Thank you so much for making that point.
…and it’s great that WikiLeaks is working in partnership with some entities that are in the business of reporting the news. Assange understands he is not a news service – WikiLeaks is in the business of revealing Ugly Political Secrets and seems to be doing well at channelling that data.
Assange doesn’t need all the people’s attention. He needs enough of the right people’s attention.
An astounding, amazing and precious thing he is doing for us.
Here is that quote from Joss; he puts a lot of inflection onto it — it’s quite a witty remark, in context.
The Christian dude (named Rank) says, “If it had been religious in nature it should have taken the form of a burning bush, or a booming voice from the sky…”
JOSS (O.S.)
But a voice from the sky is just what you say you’ve found.
btw — only 243 cables out of the 251,287 have been released to the public so far, as i noted in my earlier post on this.
my understanding is that’s partly due to not wanting to totally overwhelm everyone all at once with too much data and also to give time for the news outlets, gov’t, etc to be sure nothing that might truly endanger anyone is released unnecessarily.
Another thought: this could have an effect like making it absolutely plain that these people are just human and trusting them with so much secret material isn’t really in anyone’s best interest. We need to educate ourselves better with the information that’s at our finger tips. I’ve heard and read so many people say that we have to leave this to the experts cause we don’t understand enough. Bullshit. So-called experts are killing the biosphere. This stuff ought to be in a public forum cause it deals with things that directly impact the public. The more we comply with an attitude where we willingly dumb ourselves down, the more power psychopaths have to make life hell for others. Go wikileaks!
Carrie: in their preamble to the leak they suggested that you just read a few that spark your interest the most and then tweet or post about them. This is an aspect of the Age of Aquarius that’s trying to be born out of the sleepy time of Pisces where we all get to participate. The individual documents are pretty short and what we’ll have is a storm the likes of which have never been seen in the information systems of humanity. It’s no longer a situation where a few humans playing daddy do everything for us. It’s up to us to each do a little bit so no one has to do a whole lot.
Carrie,
They work with news organizations, including Der Speigel, the New York Times and The Guardian doing just that. The newspapers have time in advance (many weeks, in the case of the Afghanistan materials) to analyze the materials; they have been closely involved in the process.
Also I have seen Assange interviewed mapping out key issues that the documents illustrate.
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Not to disparage WikiLeaks but most people either haven’t the time to wade through all those documents or they don’t want to be bothered which means they will leave it to the MSM pundits to “tell” them what it all means.
If WikiLeaks really wanted to get people’s attention, they would have taken some time to have someone (or several someones) go through the documents and find the ones that make the most difference (or give the most bang for their efforts) and release those FIRST. Then the rest can be released in spurts as it were. Most people (in the U.S. at least) like their information short and simple, like a commercial. Anything longer than 30 seconds won’t hold their attention.
It is a sorry fact that most Americans seem incapable of keeping things on their radar longer than a few minutes (or at most, a few days) or until the next Big Thing comes along about Paris Hilton or some other equally boring person or issue.