32 thoughts on “This is the stupidest fucking thing I’ve ever heard of in my entire motherfucking life.”
Wow, Cybele, that was cool. Don’t ever worry about how dumb we can be, science is like a fun kids game. I was absolutely entranced by your descriptive immune system. (I would Definitely accept further insight, from the microscopic level, or any other..)
Funny as shit, I’ve forgotten where I was! There truly was a whole bunch more to say but,.. hmm! 😉
I know, it’s a fuck of a process, being aware, 24/7, constantly adjusting too learning,.. not too mention the lessons, I mean people, no, lessons that swim around this plane as if they hold no regard for the matter stream?! We as a species still have No Idea (species read: individuals) how we co-create this Universe,.. how we are this.. how this is us.
Hey,.. don’t worry, I’m just writing for me! 😉 But you already know that!
If one chooses to look at themselves constantly, they … (damn it man, it was there!! ..and then the focus flew away.. that’s allright too! I’ll get it!)
I smile out of the right side of my mouth more often than the left, but the left side has crazy focus juice when it comes into activation.
And then I just laugh, and say goodnight!
Goodnight!
Jere
Hi Nance – mistrust is a lot more healthy than fear, or can be; I do think that to mistrust a whole field or group of field can lead to prejudice, but this might also be wisdom, from your personal experience. I have had a lot more luck, in that sense – I have food allergies that can send me into anaphylactic shock, and wouldn’t be alive without western medicine; or maybe even conceived, as my grandfather has Type I diabetes and received insulin when it came out, and my father had successful chemo for his cancer recently, so that experience sent me to cancer-related research. But being lucky about who you get is not good enough. We need more information and more power.
Natural bodies are prone to a lot of random error and mutations; there is no perfect design, and we are all chemicals – which really are amazing, by the way, and constantly in motion and vibration – of the same atoms that are in the centers of stars. We’re descended from unicellular organisms that appeared in a marvelous way (according to scientific models and theories, that involve water, electricity, earth-like matter and air), and share development patterns with all other living creatures. Many species of unicellular organisms live in and on our bodies – many of the bacteria and fungi are just hanging out, doing no harm or good to us that we know of, but others that clearly contribute to the health of our body in positive ways, such as the probiotic flora that fight off pathogenic bacteria (which comprise a very small percentage of the still-unfathomable diversity of the microscopic world).
Wonderful Patty! Good news. Jlo is also right on with a gentle yoga or tai chi practice. Self-nurture is key.
Nance, I had a blueberry smoothie for breakfast, made with some organic soy powder. I felt good all day! Thanks for the website – it was fascinating. I plan to share it with my doctor, who also has osteoarthritis. Maybe it will put him on a new path. Everyone is looking for answers!
Hugs back at ya, Patty. We put blueberries on our morning oatmeal (thick cut oats w/apples and currants). ‘Rust never sleeps’ – especially in the rainy northwest winter.
Cybelle, thanks for sharing your medical perspective. I came at science from a similar place – I loved drawing flowers and got hooked on going to places where I could find new ones (a veritable teenage botany geek). Got to the university and wound up in a landscape architecture program where I could mix science and art. Turns out I’m a more comfortable scientist than artist.
I don’t fear western medical practices, I deeply mistrust them. My Dad’s cancer treatment may have killed him. The doc who presided over the home birth of my daughter told me if we had been at the hospital, she would have insisted on a c-section… There are loads of these kinds of stories. If I get broken, I want the best western medical emergency room available. If I get sick, find me a naturopath. Western medicine doesn’t have a holistic perspective. Mind, body, spirit – all connected.
INFLUENZA RESOURCES AREA
Nice lively discussion, Wavers. Let’s do the resources area. I would call your attention to Saturn square Pluto occurring at the precise time of the proposed pandemic.
I don’t have an editor I can “assign” to the project, so I would ask that two of you here collaborate and pull together the basics. Please reply here or email me. Once you do, we will talk and get clear on the mission.
The page can have as few as 10 articles, which we then build as new interesting ones surface. The project would take someone literate about three hours.
Let’s model it after our Bird Flu resources area; for those who are forward-looking we can get a jump on the Equestrian Flu resources area (which, actually, ain’t gonna happen, because horses have an exalted place in society, until we sell them to France and Belgium). It is however my understanding that all flu passes through birds, horses, pigs and humans in a continuous cycle. Let’s look into that.
What we need is a list of interesting, credible, understandable articles, their title, the link and a summary paragraph that can be taken from the original text. I would like to avoid the paranoia websites please, that is, sites like Rense that are devoted specifically to fear.
An appropriate tone would be Mercola; that is the tuning fork.
Half de Witte – I mention those two instances because they sort of represent my personal gold standard for believing foolishly.
Nance and JLO, thanks and hugs! 350 lbs of blueberries is a lot of blueberries!!
Half De Witte – I agree about the media. Sometimes their take on a situation is blown out of proportion because they don’t understand what was said. I was thinking about Imelda Marcos and the refrigerated rooms where she kept her furs, which the media reported as if we should all be shocked and repulsed – which we were because that’s how we were told to feel. It was just air conditioning! Think of how the computer games must have changed (or are changing) childhood for so many!
The other thing that stands out for me (on the reality issue) is “Peter Pan” – the old version with Mary Martin. I was probably about 4 or 5 when I first saw it, and I distinctly remember being horrifically scared by the crocodile. When I later saw it again as an adult I was amazed to realize the crocodile was just a costume with a couple of men crawling around in it! It should have been rated R because of the violence!
I really LOVE this one Half de Witte: ‘Most folk (virtually all) erroneously believe that reality can be described. It can’t. It can only be experienced. Most people have been rendered so passive, however, that they accept reality descriptions as substitutes for their own experience – and this is reinforced because virtually everyone they know is doing the same.’
It takes a lot of effort to live awake. Someone once told me that life doesn’t become easier if one chooses to be awake and live consciously, but that it dГіes become true. The moment she said it I knew -because I experienced it- she was right. And I felt comforted in thinking/knowing/feeling different, believing my own truth. Since then I ask myself (and others) on a daily basis some questions, like do I/you believe it? why do I/you believe it? is there any specific evidence that you have to believe it? why do I/you believe the evidence? could there be another reason for wanting to believe it?
It always is the wanting to believe that effects the choice. And I have learned to respect that (and that’s a hard part!). Hug
Oh, one more thing, Live virus in the air, that is stupid. Since my Mary Travers never took off, .. “oh when will they ever learn, oh when will they ever learn?” Where have all the flowers gone..
I like too laugh. You should too. (That lion dude from Dorothy, Chitty chitty bang bang, Mary Poppins,.. a little bit of confidence.) That’s you and me and everyone else who stepped foot into this reality! Shall we guard our courage, drown, or levitate within the hysterics of ridiculousness?
“Mustard, don’t let’s be silly!”
I’m stickin’ with the Mad Hatter! (he’s maybe a little too speedy for me but,.. he makes me laugh!”) I love too laugh!
smiles
Oh, nance, “..from psychedelics to naturopathics..” Mushrooms ARE nature. Cacti IS nature. The seven leafed beauty IS nature. The Poppy is not only beautiful, it’s highly useful.. (just check our culture), and the E.R..
I wish people would stop throwing out the term “drug”. (I know, you didn’t turn it out but, fuck, the implications.. and no, there is no karmic paranoia there!) Technically, within definition, “.. anything that alters your body, or mind.” Freakin’ air (or inhalants) folks! Food!!! ANY DAMNED THING you stick in YOUR BODY!!! Even the shit, pardon, the societal impressions you subject yourself too. THIS IS DRUG!!
Shit, fear of the man… fuck him, dude. (And this is REALLY funny..
.. You can do whatever the fuck you want to do in this reality. )
Burn him down. Torch it up! Light it all on fire.. Life is metaphor. It’s the only one you’ve got.. enjoy the shit out of it!
(This is like the warning on a pack of smokes.. 😉 ): Reading this is known to cause cancer, birth defects, and a whole host of other shit!
Just be gentle with your “Real Time”. The space you kick it when you’re with yourself.
I so freakin’ thank you cats for puttin’ up with me!
I Totally LOVE YOU!
Smiley
One problem with communicating science is that I might say more than you want to know, or things you might know already. So I apologize ahead of time if this seems like a lecture. I love the immune system, though, and medicine, so I didn’t hold back.
The immune system is amazing; I still feel like I have a ways to go to see the full picture, as does everyone, even those who’ve studied it for their entire lives. There are a couple aspects to it. One is innate immunity, something that evolution’s been working on since we were fishes or before, and the other is acquired immunity, in which antibodies respond to outside challenges and multiply in response to an antigen, a foreign particle, such as bacteria or viruses.
You may know this, but I don’t think it’s very clear here – IgA is an antibody, an aspect of the huge community of cells that’s the immune system, and not an immune system itself; the immune system describes the network of cells that interact with each other frequently, in the blood – which has contact with the mucosa. One type of IgA (10%) stays around the mucosa and another type of IgA (90%) is floating in the blood, and there are several other antibodies but the mucosal IgA is not very special in comparison to others (though I’m sure that the its parent plasma cells feel differently), just a type that is suited for the mucosal environment, which matters most to its own survival.
Antibodies help other immune cells attack and destroy invaders; they are proteins that are designed to attach to antigens – debris, viruses, bacteria, whatever “looks” foreign to them, based on the shapes of its surface proteins – mainly to mark it for destruction or to let the other types of immune cells know about it. Most of the components in the immune system are able to interact with each other in some way, either directly, by touching each other in special, consensual ways, or by communicating with chemical signals. The two categories of innate and acquired immunity really cross over quite a bit; the immune system involves many different shapes, sizes, and nature of cells, including the antibody. IgA is connected to all the others through the bloodstream, and through liquids that diffuse throughout the body, so it also comes in contact with the antigens no matter what; it may not matter if it’s first, though that’s debatable, definitely. Oral vaccines to polio worked better than the injected vaccines because the pathogenic bacteria enters the body through digestion.
The main thing I’m reading here is a distrust of medicine, which is healthy and I have and do share, though I’m in a pre-medical program and have done some research involving both cancer and pathogenic bacteria. I’ve studied how vaccines work in some detail and there are many types; i would love to go into that now, if I had time – but I might be at odds with everyone here, as I believe that they have done far more good than harm, and am interested in evidence otherwise so I want to know more about your questions and information; I’d look forward to the website.
There are many scientists and medical researchers who care about this and their childrens’ health. Evidence is important; studies involve a lot of care, and that’s something I do say from experience and with great respect to the other scientists I’ve worked with. There have been huge mistakes in medical history, but most people who go into medicine do want to help people and take that very seriously, even on an administrative level. The dedication required to cover the enormous workload around learning biochemistry and the body of work that’s been done in medical science is sometimes rewarded by money, but not every doctor is rich and I can’t see that kind of ambition being a useful factor. Still, there are major problems with the way medical schools operate and with some of the training, but the lack of ability to communicate with patients is known to be a huge problem. I came into medical work with the intention to do medical illustration, as I’ve been an artist for years, but fell in love with the science, in the ways it – the combined knowledge and effort – can help you to see and appreciate nature and the body. I appreciate these even more than when I started the formal scientific education; it’s like a language. Still, I would love to see more debate and forums for these issues.
Patty, nance hit it! I know you know this but, food. Specifically, OA, no, I’ve no answer/cure. (But the smoke could be fun!?!) My health regimen is an integral part of my being, the knowledge of curation is beyond me. (You could throw that onto the level of daath, while I’m doing a half-ass job of kickin’ it with binah.) That’s why, this time around, I’m working on the capacity for retention.. I wish I could rattle off the formula.. but no go.. doesn’t work that way in my reality at this time. Yoga? Tai chi? I’d focus the energy on nurturing/working the osteo aspect. (I know this is whack but, reality doesn’t just bend, it jumps, with the..?.. focus?!? Slightly beyond me at this now.)
Love ya cat!
Jere
Hey Patty,
Here’s support for OA – Blueberries! We picked and froze over 350 lbs of their blue goodness. Also supplements of Fish oil (DHA) and vitamin D3.
Here’s a link on OA and diet – some good stuff there. I don’t know anything about the product they are selling, but the diet info is right on: http://www.limbrel.com/living_diet.php
‘let your food be your medicine, and your medicine be your food’ – Hippocrates
JLO….ok fine. killer blunt, eh? I think we are seeing a slow genocide, frankly. Look at aids in Africa. This flu virus had to be engineered. I keep assuming it will turn into the dreaded deadly that will wipe out half the planet, but not until everyone’s paid for a vaccination.
Do you have a cure for osteoarthritis?
Thanks for the opportunity to share around this issue.
Where do some of us learn discernment? There’s a bunch of us here who know media bullshit when we hear it. Yet there’s so many who eat up the drama and the fear, take it daily – like a dose of lies. It’s as if we are taught to distrust our own instincts.
Like Jlo, I do my own health research – herbals, homeopathics, etc.
I developed an attitude in my teens that my body is my own personal experiment station… I have simply matured from psychedelics to naturopathics!
One of the things I have learned along the way is to trust myself, and the inherent healing potential of my own body. I’m not sure why I have had to learn to trust my own body’s wisdom. Seems like something that could be encouraged from birth.
Shannon is right on with the individual response to vaccination and other toxins. That is probably why it is tough to point a finger at one causation. Traditional Chinese Medicine looks at each individual in this way.
We have so much to learn.
And, look how nuts everyone is going over Suzanne Somer’s suggestion that chemotherapy killed Patrick Swayze. (In case you didn’t hear.) The death and disease industry’s PR machine is alive and well.
“..Oh my five and dime queen, tell me what have you seen? Lost on the avarice, the bottomless, the cavernous greed,.. is that what you see? Ohhh, motherland, cradle me, close my eyes, lullaby me to sleep. Keep me safe, Lie with me, stay beside me don’t go.. It’s your happiness, I want most of all, and for that I’d do anything at all,.. oh mercy me! If you want the best of me, or the most of all, if there’s anything I can do at all!?!” -Natalie Merchant: Motherland. (I so freakin’ Love you Natalie, in a healthy non-stalker capacity)
Anyone, I’m reading up on my herbals. Over the last 15 years I’ve studied the shit enough to make me well, or at least compensate for the damage I do to myself. I’m workin’ on getting the knowledge down in order to help facilitate others’ transitions toward health. This is life-soul work. Fun, but not easy. Michael Tierra is my herbal dude, East West Herbal is my source, look it up if you get the chance,.. dude is righteous!
Hey, Patty, are we in the joint smokin’ lifetime yet? You, Me, a killer blunt. Seriously dude, we’re about there. I swear to Buddha, if you you say yes, I will make this thing happen, regardless. Just tell me when.
I’ve got so much more to say here, just waiting for it to come around on the geetar! “Some Arlo Guthrie reference.” Alice’s Restaurant isn’t too far off….
Love, (and don’t breathe the air… it might be laden with live toxin, Ha freakin’ ha ha. I still say, just stick your tongue down the throat of the sickest person you can find, vaccination complete!)
Thanks for lettin’ me chill…
Jere
People need to get clear on the basics – the fundamentals.
‘The world’ is a construct but most people do not relate to it consciously as such. This is a problem. They reify a construct. This ‘common sense’ approach plays right into the hands of the agenda harbingers. Most folk (virtually all) erroneously believe that reality can be described. It can’t. It can only be experienced. Most people have been rendered so passive, however, that they accept reality descriptions as substitutes for their own experience – and this is reinforced because virtually everyone they know is doing the same.
The single most important thing we can continually counsel is for people to eat reality raw and live their own truth. This is an active principle and it requires casting off a whole weight of lies (that we tell ourselves first of all – only secondarily preyed upon by mega-players and global vested interest).
Staying awake is not simply an act of awareness but also one of making dynamic choices – continually (often at a cost among our peers). But people have to see clearly what is at stake in the first instance. Otherwise we are simply window dressing..
Yes for the vaccination resource area.
The argument that vaccines don’t cause neurological complications like autism is a bit of tricky word play. That statement may be technically true, but it muddies the real problem: doctors can’t guarantee how each vaccination will affect an individual’s genetic/neurological make-up. One man’s vaccination may be his salvation, another his destruction. So while the vaccination may not “cause” a particular outcome, it could trip off a series of negative reactions within a someone genetically predisposed to neurological impairments.
My daughter had 22 vaccination shots by the age of 2 –the time she got her diagnosis of autism. She got the first two in her first 12 hours of life. I had 8 vaccinations before I first entered kindergarten. Do we give this many because we can? Is ability the sole indicator of appropriateness? Don’t think so.
Expediency is the motivation. Here in Oklahoma, they began pushing for earlier vaccinations, and why? The state was reporting more children and specifically more infants entering daycare at earlier ages. That’s a hot topic right there.
Still–
Because neurological disorders like autism are extremely complex and still not entirely understood, I will not lay all of my daughter’s fate at the feet of vaccinations gone awry. But our family histories have enough of food intolerances, depression, ADD and asperger’s syndrome threading through them that if I gave birth to another child I would absolutely NOT allow vaccinations before aged 2. A poorly or delicately organized nervous system is no place for aggressive viruses! Alas, my hindsight won’t bring my daughter’s ‘lost’ early years back to me.
I agree whole heartedly that media analysis is missing from many conversations.
People will be seeking info on the flu – and even one ‘contra’ viewpoint is enough to instill caution
A flu vaccine resource area?
How about a media immunity resource area?
We need to extract clear discernment criteria that revolve around the threat-solution constructs which are now being peddled as a key tactic.
So, the first question to ask is “what would constitute a meaningful threat?”
The fact that ‘somebody’ somewhere SUGGESTS that something MAY BE a threat is interesting. Manipulators cannot really say that something IS a threat as effectively to manipulate mass psychology as that IT MAY be. That element of doubt is what creates the preoccupative rumination that catalyses fear. If threat wasn’t portrayed as provisional there would be an instant dilemma for the propagandist – because people would have to act to produce real solutions to real problems.
Therefore ALWAYS watch for the word ‘MAY’ in propaganda.
Now of course, something which is provisional must be relatively minor in threat level and so EXAGGERATION will always be necessary to create a sense of WILL HAPPEN from the merely provisional nature of the threat.
Look carefully at the benefits to the manipulators from the mass mentality so induced. Potential pandemic creates the ‘logical’ prophylaxis pairing of universal vaccination. And this desired end product of the manipulation should immediately draw our attention to “the added vitamins” that can hence be administered.
The second question to ask is “what would constitute a meaningful response to a meaningful threat?”
It’s ‘funny’ that “global warming” has been reduced to “climate change” when the threat is real and potentially planet-destroying for us all – yet it is re-branded in order to fund an idea of ‘new market opportunities”. Hey, the planet’s falling apart and there will be mass flooding and human displacement combined with major ecological shifts but, you know, just move – grow olives if you’re in the uk instead of the ‘older’ crops.
People need to become acquainted with how to discern and screen out lies and then how to forge links with counter-cultural support of other humans who inhabit an alternative paradigm. Burning Man was an interesting coverage from Eric that we need to transform from periphery to mainstream… and soon.
I like the idea of a vaccination resource area.
I spoke with a naturopath about childhood vaccinations for my child and she told me that most of the healing work she does with adults involves cleansing the effects of childhood vaccinations. The immune system is not fully developed until age 2. The idea of forcing an immune system response in infants doesn’t make any sense to me.
I keep a flu kit in my house that contains homeopathics (there is one specific to H1N1), garlic, and vitamin D3. I also take D3 regularly, and keep my gut flora healthy with probiotics (More than 50% of all our immune cells are clustered around the gastrointestinal tract. (Bock and Sabin, The Road to Immunity 1997)
Your immune system recognizes squalene as an oil molecule native to your body. It is found throughout your nervous system and brain. In fact, you can consume squalene in olive oil and not only will your immune system recognize it, you will also reap the benefits of its antioxidant properties.
The difference between “good” and “bad” squalene is the route by which it enters your body. Injection is an abnormal route of entry which incites your immune system to attack all the squalene in your body, not just the vaccine adjuvant.
Your immune system will attempt to destroy the molecule wherever it finds it, including in places where it occurs naturally, and where it is vital to the health of your nervous system.[viii]
Gulf War veterans with Gulf War Syndrome (GWS) received anthrax vaccines which contained squalene.[ix] MF59 (the Novartis squalene adjuvant) was an unapproved ingredient in experimental anthrax vaccines and has since been linked to the devastating autoimmune diseases suffered by countless Gulf War vets.[x]
The Department of Defense made every attempt to deny that squalene was indeed an added contaminant in the anthrax vaccine administered to Persian Gulf war military personnel – deployed and non-deployed – as well as participants in the more recent Anthrax Vaccine Immunization Program (AVIP).
However, the FDA discovered the presence of squalene in certain lots of AVIP product. A test was developed to detect anti-squalene antibodies in GWS patients, and a clear link was established between the contaminated product and all the GWS sufferers who had been injected with the vaccine containing squalene.
I admit to being a bit naive, but it’s been easy to see this whole flu thing developing as Big Pharma’s night at the Playboy mansion. It’s just that when you see it in action…and so many people believe that a vaccine is useful…it starts to sound like “let’s go get hit by a car.”
Then – what if something goes wrong with their vaccine? It’s happened before.
Mercola has written about the current vaccine and the issue of vaccinations:
The presumed intent of a vaccination is to help you build immunity to potentially harmful organisms that cause illness and disease. However, your body’s immune system is already designed to do this in response to organisms which invade your body naturally.
Most disease-causing organisms enter your body through the mucous membranes of your nose, mouth, pulmonary system or your digestive tract – not through an injection.
These mucous membranes have their own immune system, called the IgA immune system. It is a different system from the one activated when a vaccine is injected into your body.
Your IgA immune system is your body’s first line of defense. Its job is to fight off invading organisms at their entry points, reducing or even eliminating the need for activation of your body’s immune system.
When a virus is injected into your body in a vaccine, and especially when combined with an immune adjuvant like squalene, your IgA immune system is bypassed and your body’s immune system kicks into high gear in response to the vaccination.
Injecting organisms into your body to provoke immunity is contrary to nature, and vaccination carries enormous potential to do serious damage to your health.
Market forces at your service! Where would you like your paranoia? For your convenience we have diversified with multiple delivery platforms: inhale-able, inject-able, and immerse-able EMF body rub.
As the world becomes less and less human the burden and responsibility of being human grows. I agree, the “reality” is so manipulated and manufactured we can’t see the difference anymore. This is where I get stuck. I am exhausted and often worry that they picked the wrong person for the job….It is tiring to know that the rational, thinking people, like our dear friends here at PW, are in a distinct minority. I will go to Hannaford this morning and the buzz will be, “Have you gotten your flu shot yet?” With a smile; even with excitement. I guess the long and short of it is that we have a responsibility to call it like it is, share our indignation, and stay striving to be real and loving and human with each other-and the next person we meet. I think this is the one freedom we can’t be stripped of.
And you still want government to run the health programs in this country? After seeing the way the media manipulated the ‘tea party’ demonstrations by leaving out the real photos and news footage, I am seriously wondering what the real agenda is for us. Stripping our wealth? Mission accomplished – almost. Government is not here to help you!
What would JFK say about this? He died right after he said he would abolish the Federal Reserve. Now that oil is headed south in the earnings sector, healthcare must be taking its place as chief money maker and stripper of citizen wealth. Free speech is being curtailed. Remember how the media used to make everyone feel like they were un-American if they protested the Viet Nam war back in the 60s and early 70s? No of course you don’t. We are seeing it again only this time it is the people with ‘conservative’ values who are being attacked. Haven’t notice the military machine fading into the sunset either, but maybe fewer deaths reported and that makes it more palatable, eh? The rich get richer, and the poor will always be with us so that excuses it.
It is all about money, and there is nothing new under the sun.
Yea, this is stupid. If you want to choose the ‘inhaler’ delivery form of the vaccine WHICH CONTAINS A LIVE VIRUS, then why don’t you just go to a primary school classroom or a hospital where the H1N1 virus is. You can just vaccinate yourself that way, errrrr, the natural way. Which BY the way, is the way our immune systems mature and become more adaptable….. you get sick and you get better! The drug companies are great at stoking the fear fire. We have to remember that life isn’t about getting vaccines and ‘immuning’ ourselves to every stinkin’ thing out there. We have immune systems for a REASON….. to protect us. When we have a fever we should applaud our amazing bodies for recognizing the invader and doing the job it’s suppose to do. Make us adapt. ADAPTABILITY….. is the key word from here on out, folks.
These newsitems make me more than angry. And I really do begin to develop a perhaps unhealthy dose of mistrusting all kinds of news: all those talk about pandemics, perhaps even the pandemics themselves are being developed because of taking the focus out of the really important issues more and more people are getting aware of. Even worse, seeing the treatment and plan: what will be in it?! Manipulation, it is. Make the crowd scared enough so they focus on surviving instead of making survival a heaven on earth for everyone. Let us all be wiser and begin to practice as much as possible all those great humanistic feelings of sharing and love, with food, housing, caring and sex/intimacy. The only things everyone needs to enjoy life anyhow. Lets work on that, instead of working on non-existing danger. And I wont let me fill my head with shit, so thank you Half De Witte!
The only surprise is that anyone is surprised. Mind control experimentation has been actively in progress for years. The ‘News’ now defines most folks view of reality ‘out there’.
Of course, everyone forgets that ALL that stuff is just irrelevant – meaningless. We spend ages dissecting it – and that is part of the problem.
The fact that technology and news streams could be harnessed responsibly is irrelevant because we are being spoon-fed someone else’s desired take on what is going on.
The great thing for government is that they can test what a bunch of suckers we all are and ‘innovate’ new manipulations. They define reality almost without exclusion – unless you choose to look away from the detritus. A focus upon shit, well, it fills your head with shit!!
Wow, Cybele, that was cool. Don’t ever worry about how dumb we can be, science is like a fun kids game. I was absolutely entranced by your descriptive immune system. (I would Definitely accept further insight, from the microscopic level, or any other..)
Funny as shit, I’ve forgotten where I was! There truly was a whole bunch more to say but,.. hmm! 😉
I know, it’s a fuck of a process, being aware, 24/7, constantly adjusting too learning,.. not too mention the lessons, I mean people, no, lessons that swim around this plane as if they hold no regard for the matter stream?! We as a species still have No Idea (species read: individuals) how we co-create this Universe,.. how we are this.. how this is us.
Hey,.. don’t worry, I’m just writing for me! 😉 But you already know that!
If one chooses to look at themselves constantly, they … (damn it man, it was there!! ..and then the focus flew away.. that’s allright too! I’ll get it!)
I smile out of the right side of my mouth more often than the left, but the left side has crazy focus juice when it comes into activation.
And then I just laugh, and say goodnight!
Goodnight!
Jere
Hi Nance – mistrust is a lot more healthy than fear, or can be; I do think that to mistrust a whole field or group of field can lead to prejudice, but this might also be wisdom, from your personal experience. I have had a lot more luck, in that sense – I have food allergies that can send me into anaphylactic shock, and wouldn’t be alive without western medicine; or maybe even conceived, as my grandfather has Type I diabetes and received insulin when it came out, and my father had successful chemo for his cancer recently, so that experience sent me to cancer-related research. But being lucky about who you get is not good enough. We need more information and more power.
Natural bodies are prone to a lot of random error and mutations; there is no perfect design, and we are all chemicals – which really are amazing, by the way, and constantly in motion and vibration – of the same atoms that are in the centers of stars. We’re descended from unicellular organisms that appeared in a marvelous way (according to scientific models and theories, that involve water, electricity, earth-like matter and air), and share development patterns with all other living creatures. Many species of unicellular organisms live in and on our bodies – many of the bacteria and fungi are just hanging out, doing no harm or good to us that we know of, but others that clearly contribute to the health of our body in positive ways, such as the probiotic flora that fight off pathogenic bacteria (which comprise a very small percentage of the still-unfathomable diversity of the microscopic world).
Wonderful Patty! Good news. Jlo is also right on with a gentle yoga or tai chi practice. Self-nurture is key.
Nance, I had a blueberry smoothie for breakfast, made with some organic soy powder. I felt good all day! Thanks for the website – it was fascinating. I plan to share it with my doctor, who also has osteoarthritis. Maybe it will put him on a new path. Everyone is looking for answers!
Hugs back at ya, Patty. We put blueberries on our morning oatmeal (thick cut oats w/apples and currants). ‘Rust never sleeps’ – especially in the rainy northwest winter.
Cybelle, thanks for sharing your medical perspective. I came at science from a similar place – I loved drawing flowers and got hooked on going to places where I could find new ones (a veritable teenage botany geek). Got to the university and wound up in a landscape architecture program where I could mix science and art. Turns out I’m a more comfortable scientist than artist.
I don’t fear western medical practices, I deeply mistrust them. My Dad’s cancer treatment may have killed him. The doc who presided over the home birth of my daughter told me if we had been at the hospital, she would have insisted on a c-section… There are loads of these kinds of stories. If I get broken, I want the best western medical emergency room available. If I get sick, find me a naturopath. Western medicine doesn’t have a holistic perspective. Mind, body, spirit – all connected.
INFLUENZA RESOURCES AREA
Nice lively discussion, Wavers. Let’s do the resources area. I would call your attention to Saturn square Pluto occurring at the precise time of the proposed pandemic.
I don’t have an editor I can “assign” to the project, so I would ask that two of you here collaborate and pull together the basics. Please reply here or email me. Once you do, we will talk and get clear on the mission.
The page can have as few as 10 articles, which we then build as new interesting ones surface. The project would take someone literate about three hours.
Let’s model it after our Bird Flu resources area; for those who are forward-looking we can get a jump on the Equestrian Flu resources area (which, actually, ain’t gonna happen, because horses have an exalted place in society, until we sell them to France and Belgium). It is however my understanding that all flu passes through birds, horses, pigs and humans in a continuous cycle. Let’s look into that.
What we need is a list of interesting, credible, understandable articles, their title, the link and a summary paragraph that can be taken from the original text. I would like to avoid the paranoia websites please, that is, sites like Rense that are devoted specifically to fear.
An appropriate tone would be Mercola; that is the tuning fork.
Here is the Bird Flu area, done by Mandy Hall.
http://www.planetwavesweekly.com/resources/pworldsflu.html
Half de Witte – I mention those two instances because they sort of represent my personal gold standard for believing foolishly.
Nance and JLO, thanks and hugs! 350 lbs of blueberries is a lot of blueberries!!
Half De Witte – I agree about the media. Sometimes their take on a situation is blown out of proportion because they don’t understand what was said. I was thinking about Imelda Marcos and the refrigerated rooms where she kept her furs, which the media reported as if we should all be shocked and repulsed – which we were because that’s how we were told to feel. It was just air conditioning! Think of how the computer games must have changed (or are changing) childhood for so many!
The other thing that stands out for me (on the reality issue) is “Peter Pan” – the old version with Mary Martin. I was probably about 4 or 5 when I first saw it, and I distinctly remember being horrifically scared by the crocodile. When I later saw it again as an adult I was amazed to realize the crocodile was just a costume with a couple of men crawling around in it! It should have been rated R because of the violence!
I really LOVE this one Half de Witte: ‘Most folk (virtually all) erroneously believe that reality can be described. It can’t. It can only be experienced. Most people have been rendered so passive, however, that they accept reality descriptions as substitutes for their own experience – and this is reinforced because virtually everyone they know is doing the same.’
It takes a lot of effort to live awake. Someone once told me that life doesn’t become easier if one chooses to be awake and live consciously, but that it dГіes become true. The moment she said it I knew -because I experienced it- she was right. And I felt comforted in thinking/knowing/feeling different, believing my own truth. Since then I ask myself (and others) on a daily basis some questions, like do I/you believe it? why do I/you believe it? is there any specific evidence that you have to believe it? why do I/you believe the evidence? could there be another reason for wanting to believe it?
It always is the wanting to believe that effects the choice. And I have learned to respect that (and that’s a hard part!). Hug
Oh, one more thing, Live virus in the air, that is stupid. Since my Mary Travers never took off, .. “oh when will they ever learn, oh when will they ever learn?” Where have all the flowers gone..
I like too laugh. You should too. (That lion dude from Dorothy, Chitty chitty bang bang, Mary Poppins,.. a little bit of confidence.) That’s you and me and everyone else who stepped foot into this reality! Shall we guard our courage, drown, or levitate within the hysterics of ridiculousness?
“Mustard, don’t let’s be silly!”
I’m stickin’ with the Mad Hatter! (he’s maybe a little too speedy for me but,.. he makes me laugh!”) I love too laugh!
smiles
Oh, nance, “..from psychedelics to naturopathics..” Mushrooms ARE nature. Cacti IS nature. The seven leafed beauty IS nature. The Poppy is not only beautiful, it’s highly useful.. (just check our culture), and the E.R..
I wish people would stop throwing out the term “drug”. (I know, you didn’t turn it out but, fuck, the implications.. and no, there is no karmic paranoia there!) Technically, within definition, “.. anything that alters your body, or mind.” Freakin’ air (or inhalants) folks! Food!!! ANY DAMNED THING you stick in YOUR BODY!!! Even the shit, pardon, the societal impressions you subject yourself too. THIS IS DRUG!!
Shit, fear of the man… fuck him, dude. (And this is REALLY funny..
.. You can do whatever the fuck you want to do in this reality. )
Burn him down. Torch it up! Light it all on fire.. Life is metaphor. It’s the only one you’ve got.. enjoy the shit out of it!
(This is like the warning on a pack of smokes.. 😉 ): Reading this is known to cause cancer, birth defects, and a whole host of other shit!
Just be gentle with your “Real Time”. The space you kick it when you’re with yourself.
I so freakin’ thank you cats for puttin’ up with me!
I Totally LOVE YOU!
Smiley
One problem with communicating science is that I might say more than you want to know, or things you might know already. So I apologize ahead of time if this seems like a lecture. I love the immune system, though, and medicine, so I didn’t hold back.
The immune system is amazing; I still feel like I have a ways to go to see the full picture, as does everyone, even those who’ve studied it for their entire lives. There are a couple aspects to it. One is innate immunity, something that evolution’s been working on since we were fishes or before, and the other is acquired immunity, in which antibodies respond to outside challenges and multiply in response to an antigen, a foreign particle, such as bacteria or viruses.
You may know this, but I don’t think it’s very clear here – IgA is an antibody, an aspect of the huge community of cells that’s the immune system, and not an immune system itself; the immune system describes the network of cells that interact with each other frequently, in the blood – which has contact with the mucosa. One type of IgA (10%) stays around the mucosa and another type of IgA (90%) is floating in the blood, and there are several other antibodies but the mucosal IgA is not very special in comparison to others (though I’m sure that the its parent plasma cells feel differently), just a type that is suited for the mucosal environment, which matters most to its own survival.
Antibodies help other immune cells attack and destroy invaders; they are proteins that are designed to attach to antigens – debris, viruses, bacteria, whatever “looks” foreign to them, based on the shapes of its surface proteins – mainly to mark it for destruction or to let the other types of immune cells know about it. Most of the components in the immune system are able to interact with each other in some way, either directly, by touching each other in special, consensual ways, or by communicating with chemical signals. The two categories of innate and acquired immunity really cross over quite a bit; the immune system involves many different shapes, sizes, and nature of cells, including the antibody. IgA is connected to all the others through the bloodstream, and through liquids that diffuse throughout the body, so it also comes in contact with the antigens no matter what; it may not matter if it’s first, though that’s debatable, definitely. Oral vaccines to polio worked better than the injected vaccines because the pathogenic bacteria enters the body through digestion.
The main thing I’m reading here is a distrust of medicine, which is healthy and I have and do share, though I’m in a pre-medical program and have done some research involving both cancer and pathogenic bacteria. I’ve studied how vaccines work in some detail and there are many types; i would love to go into that now, if I had time – but I might be at odds with everyone here, as I believe that they have done far more good than harm, and am interested in evidence otherwise so I want to know more about your questions and information; I’d look forward to the website.
There are many scientists and medical researchers who care about this and their childrens’ health. Evidence is important; studies involve a lot of care, and that’s something I do say from experience and with great respect to the other scientists I’ve worked with. There have been huge mistakes in medical history, but most people who go into medicine do want to help people and take that very seriously, even on an administrative level. The dedication required to cover the enormous workload around learning biochemistry and the body of work that’s been done in medical science is sometimes rewarded by money, but not every doctor is rich and I can’t see that kind of ambition being a useful factor. Still, there are major problems with the way medical schools operate and with some of the training, but the lack of ability to communicate with patients is known to be a huge problem. I came into medical work with the intention to do medical illustration, as I’ve been an artist for years, but fell in love with the science, in the ways it – the combined knowledge and effort – can help you to see and appreciate nature and the body. I appreciate these even more than when I started the formal scientific education; it’s like a language. Still, I would love to see more debate and forums for these issues.
Patty, nance hit it! I know you know this but, food. Specifically, OA, no, I’ve no answer/cure. (But the smoke could be fun!?!) My health regimen is an integral part of my being, the knowledge of curation is beyond me. (You could throw that onto the level of daath, while I’m doing a half-ass job of kickin’ it with binah.) That’s why, this time around, I’m working on the capacity for retention.. I wish I could rattle off the formula.. but no go.. doesn’t work that way in my reality at this time. Yoga? Tai chi? I’d focus the energy on nurturing/working the osteo aspect. (I know this is whack but, reality doesn’t just bend, it jumps, with the..?.. focus?!? Slightly beyond me at this now.)
Love ya cat!
Jere
Hey Patty,
Here’s support for OA – Blueberries! We picked and froze over 350 lbs of their blue goodness. Also supplements of Fish oil (DHA) and vitamin D3.
Here’s a link on OA and diet – some good stuff there. I don’t know anything about the product they are selling, but the diet info is right on:
http://www.limbrel.com/living_diet.php
‘let your food be your medicine, and your medicine be your food’ – Hippocrates
JLO….ok fine. killer blunt, eh? I think we are seeing a slow genocide, frankly. Look at aids in Africa. This flu virus had to be engineered. I keep assuming it will turn into the dreaded deadly that will wipe out half the planet, but not until everyone’s paid for a vaccination.
Do you have a cure for osteoarthritis?
Thanks for the opportunity to share around this issue.
Where do some of us learn discernment? There’s a bunch of us here who know media bullshit when we hear it. Yet there’s so many who eat up the drama and the fear, take it daily – like a dose of lies. It’s as if we are taught to distrust our own instincts.
Like Jlo, I do my own health research – herbals, homeopathics, etc.
I developed an attitude in my teens that my body is my own personal experiment station… I have simply matured from psychedelics to naturopathics!
One of the things I have learned along the way is to trust myself, and the inherent healing potential of my own body. I’m not sure why I have had to learn to trust my own body’s wisdom. Seems like something that could be encouraged from birth.
Here is a flower essence (emotional support) that may help with this crisis of trust:
http://www.3flowershealing.com/prod/OregonGrape133.cfm?InventoryID=133&CFID=16420401&CFTOKEN=45332523
Shannon is right on with the individual response to vaccination and other toxins. That is probably why it is tough to point a finger at one causation. Traditional Chinese Medicine looks at each individual in this way.
We have so much to learn.
And, look how nuts everyone is going over Suzanne Somer’s suggestion that chemotherapy killed Patrick Swayze. (In case you didn’t hear.) The death and disease industry’s PR machine is alive and well.
“..Oh my five and dime queen, tell me what have you seen? Lost on the avarice, the bottomless, the cavernous greed,.. is that what you see? Ohhh, motherland, cradle me, close my eyes, lullaby me to sleep. Keep me safe, Lie with me, stay beside me don’t go.. It’s your happiness, I want most of all, and for that I’d do anything at all,.. oh mercy me! If you want the best of me, or the most of all, if there’s anything I can do at all!?!” -Natalie Merchant: Motherland. (I so freakin’ Love you Natalie, in a healthy non-stalker capacity)
Anyone, I’m reading up on my herbals. Over the last 15 years I’ve studied the shit enough to make me well, or at least compensate for the damage I do to myself. I’m workin’ on getting the knowledge down in order to help facilitate others’ transitions toward health. This is life-soul work. Fun, but not easy. Michael Tierra is my herbal dude, East West Herbal is my source, look it up if you get the chance,.. dude is righteous!
Hey, Patty, are we in the joint smokin’ lifetime yet? You, Me, a killer blunt. Seriously dude, we’re about there. I swear to Buddha, if you you say yes, I will make this thing happen, regardless. Just tell me when.
I’ve got so much more to say here, just waiting for it to come around on the geetar! “Some Arlo Guthrie reference.” Alice’s Restaurant isn’t too far off….
Love, (and don’t breathe the air… it might be laden with live toxin, Ha freakin’ ha ha. I still say, just stick your tongue down the throat of the sickest person you can find, vaccination complete!)
Thanks for lettin’ me chill…
Jere
People need to get clear on the basics – the fundamentals.
‘The world’ is a construct but most people do not relate to it consciously as such. This is a problem. They reify a construct. This ‘common sense’ approach plays right into the hands of the agenda harbingers. Most folk (virtually all) erroneously believe that reality can be described. It can’t. It can only be experienced. Most people have been rendered so passive, however, that they accept reality descriptions as substitutes for their own experience – and this is reinforced because virtually everyone they know is doing the same.
The single most important thing we can continually counsel is for people to eat reality raw and live their own truth. This is an active principle and it requires casting off a whole weight of lies (that we tell ourselves first of all – only secondarily preyed upon by mega-players and global vested interest).
Staying awake is not simply an act of awareness but also one of making dynamic choices – continually (often at a cost among our peers). But people have to see clearly what is at stake in the first instance. Otherwise we are simply window dressing..
Yes for the vaccination resource area.
The argument that vaccines don’t cause neurological complications like autism is a bit of tricky word play. That statement may be technically true, but it muddies the real problem: doctors can’t guarantee how each vaccination will affect an individual’s genetic/neurological make-up. One man’s vaccination may be his salvation, another his destruction. So while the vaccination may not “cause” a particular outcome, it could trip off a series of negative reactions within a someone genetically predisposed to neurological impairments.
My daughter had 22 vaccination shots by the age of 2 –the time she got her diagnosis of autism. She got the first two in her first 12 hours of life. I had 8 vaccinations before I first entered kindergarten. Do we give this many because we can? Is ability the sole indicator of appropriateness? Don’t think so.
Expediency is the motivation. Here in Oklahoma, they began pushing for earlier vaccinations, and why? The state was reporting more children and specifically more infants entering daycare at earlier ages. That’s a hot topic right there.
Still–
Because neurological disorders like autism are extremely complex and still not entirely understood, I will not lay all of my daughter’s fate at the feet of vaccinations gone awry. But our family histories have enough of food intolerances, depression, ADD and asperger’s syndrome threading through them that if I gave birth to another child I would absolutely NOT allow vaccinations before aged 2. A poorly or delicately organized nervous system is no place for aggressive viruses! Alas, my hindsight won’t bring my daughter’s ‘lost’ early years back to me.
I agree whole heartedly that media analysis is missing from many conversations.
People will be seeking info on the flu – and even one ‘contra’ viewpoint is enough to instill caution
A flu vaccine resource area?
How about a media immunity resource area?
We need to extract clear discernment criteria that revolve around the threat-solution constructs which are now being peddled as a key tactic.
So, the first question to ask is “what would constitute a meaningful threat?”
The fact that ‘somebody’ somewhere SUGGESTS that something MAY BE a threat is interesting. Manipulators cannot really say that something IS a threat as effectively to manipulate mass psychology as that IT MAY be. That element of doubt is what creates the preoccupative rumination that catalyses fear. If threat wasn’t portrayed as provisional there would be an instant dilemma for the propagandist – because people would have to act to produce real solutions to real problems.
Therefore ALWAYS watch for the word ‘MAY’ in propaganda.
Now of course, something which is provisional must be relatively minor in threat level and so EXAGGERATION will always be necessary to create a sense of WILL HAPPEN from the merely provisional nature of the threat.
Look carefully at the benefits to the manipulators from the mass mentality so induced. Potential pandemic creates the ‘logical’ prophylaxis pairing of universal vaccination. And this desired end product of the manipulation should immediately draw our attention to “the added vitamins” that can hence be administered.
The second question to ask is “what would constitute a meaningful response to a meaningful threat?”
It’s ‘funny’ that “global warming” has been reduced to “climate change” when the threat is real and potentially planet-destroying for us all – yet it is re-branded in order to fund an idea of ‘new market opportunities”. Hey, the planet’s falling apart and there will be mass flooding and human displacement combined with major ecological shifts but, you know, just move – grow olives if you’re in the uk instead of the ‘older’ crops.
People need to become acquainted with how to discern and screen out lies and then how to forge links with counter-cultural support of other humans who inhabit an alternative paradigm. Burning Man was an interesting coverage from Eric that we need to transform from periphery to mainstream… and soon.
I like the idea of a vaccination resource area.
I spoke with a naturopath about childhood vaccinations for my child and she told me that most of the healing work she does with adults involves cleansing the effects of childhood vaccinations. The immune system is not fully developed until age 2. The idea of forcing an immune system response in infants doesn’t make any sense to me.
I keep a flu kit in my house that contains homeopathics (there is one specific to H1N1), garlic, and vitamin D3. I also take D3 regularly, and keep my gut flora healthy with probiotics (More than 50% of all our immune cells are clustered around the gastrointestinal tract. (Bock and Sabin, The Road to Immunity 1997)
The following link is a little far out (even for me) but I want to share it anyway, because it speaks to the fear that is driving this issue:
http://tomkenyon.com/lies-half-truths-and-manipulations
Ladies, Gents
I suggest we build a flu vaccine resource area.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/09/AR2009070900353.html
If one had a suspicious mind and put that together with this: Muslims must get flu jab
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8255612.stm
Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease: Leaked letter reveals concern of neurologists over 25 deaths in America
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206807/Swine-flu-jab-link-killer-nerve-disease-Leaked-letter-reveals-concern-neurologists-25-deaths-America.html
More from Mercola:
Your immune system recognizes squalene as an oil molecule native to your body. It is found throughout your nervous system and brain. In fact, you can consume squalene in olive oil and not only will your immune system recognize it, you will also reap the benefits of its antioxidant properties.
The difference between “good” and “bad” squalene is the route by which it enters your body. Injection is an abnormal route of entry which incites your immune system to attack all the squalene in your body, not just the vaccine adjuvant.
Your immune system will attempt to destroy the molecule wherever it finds it, including in places where it occurs naturally, and where it is vital to the health of your nervous system.[viii]
Gulf War veterans with Gulf War Syndrome (GWS) received anthrax vaccines which contained squalene.[ix] MF59 (the Novartis squalene adjuvant) was an unapproved ingredient in experimental anthrax vaccines and has since been linked to the devastating autoimmune diseases suffered by countless Gulf War vets.[x]
The Department of Defense made every attempt to deny that squalene was indeed an added contaminant in the anthrax vaccine administered to Persian Gulf war military personnel – deployed and non-deployed – as well as participants in the more recent Anthrax Vaccine Immunization Program (AVIP).
However, the FDA discovered the presence of squalene in certain lots of AVIP product. A test was developed to detect anti-squalene antibodies in GWS patients, and a clear link was established between the contaminated product and all the GWS sufferers who had been injected with the vaccine containing squalene.
I admit to being a bit naive, but it’s been easy to see this whole flu thing developing as Big Pharma’s night at the Playboy mansion. It’s just that when you see it in action…and so many people believe that a vaccine is useful…it starts to sound like “let’s go get hit by a car.”
Then – what if something goes wrong with their vaccine? It’s happened before.
Mercola has written about the current vaccine and the issue of vaccinations:
The presumed intent of a vaccination is to help you build immunity to potentially harmful organisms that cause illness and disease. However, your body’s immune system is already designed to do this in response to organisms which invade your body naturally.
Most disease-causing organisms enter your body through the mucous membranes of your nose, mouth, pulmonary system or your digestive tract – not through an injection.
These mucous membranes have their own immune system, called the IgA immune system. It is a different system from the one activated when a vaccine is injected into your body.
Your IgA immune system is your body’s first line of defense. Its job is to fight off invading organisms at their entry points, reducing or even eliminating the need for activation of your body’s immune system.
When a virus is injected into your body in a vaccine, and especially when combined with an immune adjuvant like squalene, your IgA immune system is bypassed and your body’s immune system kicks into high gear in response to the vaccination.
Injecting organisms into your body to provoke immunity is contrary to nature, and vaccination carries enormous potential to do serious damage to your health.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/08/04/Squalene-The-Swine-Flu-Vaccines-Dirty-Little-Secret-Exposed.aspx
Market forces at your service! Where would you like your paranoia? For your convenience we have diversified with multiple delivery platforms: inhale-able, inject-able, and immerse-able EMF body rub.
As the world becomes less and less human the burden and responsibility of being human grows. I agree, the “reality” is so manipulated and manufactured we can’t see the difference anymore. This is where I get stuck. I am exhausted and often worry that they picked the wrong person for the job….It is tiring to know that the rational, thinking people, like our dear friends here at PW, are in a distinct minority. I will go to Hannaford this morning and the buzz will be, “Have you gotten your flu shot yet?” With a smile; even with excitement. I guess the long and short of it is that we have a responsibility to call it like it is, share our indignation, and stay striving to be real and loving and human with each other-and the next person we meet. I think this is the one freedom we can’t be stripped of.
And you still want government to run the health programs in this country? After seeing the way the media manipulated the ‘tea party’ demonstrations by leaving out the real photos and news footage, I am seriously wondering what the real agenda is for us. Stripping our wealth? Mission accomplished – almost. Government is not here to help you!
What would JFK say about this? He died right after he said he would abolish the Federal Reserve. Now that oil is headed south in the earnings sector, healthcare must be taking its place as chief money maker and stripper of citizen wealth. Free speech is being curtailed. Remember how the media used to make everyone feel like they were un-American if they protested the Viet Nam war back in the 60s and early 70s? No of course you don’t. We are seeing it again only this time it is the people with ‘conservative’ values who are being attacked. Haven’t notice the military machine fading into the sunset either, but maybe fewer deaths reported and that makes it more palatable, eh? The rich get richer, and the poor will always be with us so that excuses it.
It is all about money, and there is nothing new under the sun.
Yea, this is stupid. If you want to choose the ‘inhaler’ delivery form of the vaccine WHICH CONTAINS A LIVE VIRUS, then why don’t you just go to a primary school classroom or a hospital where the H1N1 virus is. You can just vaccinate yourself that way, errrrr, the natural way. Which BY the way, is the way our immune systems mature and become more adaptable….. you get sick and you get better! The drug companies are great at stoking the fear fire. We have to remember that life isn’t about getting vaccines and ‘immuning’ ourselves to every stinkin’ thing out there. We have immune systems for a REASON….. to protect us. When we have a fever we should applaud our amazing bodies for recognizing the invader and doing the job it’s suppose to do. Make us adapt. ADAPTABILITY….. is the key word from here on out, folks.
These newsitems make me more than angry. And I really do begin to develop a perhaps unhealthy dose of mistrusting all kinds of news: all those talk about pandemics, perhaps even the pandemics themselves are being developed because of taking the focus out of the really important issues more and more people are getting aware of. Even worse, seeing the treatment and plan: what will be in it?! Manipulation, it is. Make the crowd scared enough so they focus on surviving instead of making survival a heaven on earth for everyone. Let us all be wiser and begin to practice as much as possible all those great humanistic feelings of sharing and love, with food, housing, caring and sex/intimacy. The only things everyone needs to enjoy life anyhow. Lets work on that, instead of working on non-existing danger. And I wont let me fill my head with shit, so thank you Half De Witte!
The only surprise is that anyone is surprised. Mind control experimentation has been actively in progress for years. The ‘News’ now defines most folks view of reality ‘out there’.
Of course, everyone forgets that ALL that stuff is just irrelevant – meaningless. We spend ages dissecting it – and that is part of the problem.
The fact that technology and news streams could be harnessed responsibly is irrelevant because we are being spoon-fed someone else’s desired take on what is going on.
The great thing for government is that they can test what a bunch of suckers we all are and ‘innovate’ new manipulations. They define reality almost without exclusion – unless you choose to look away from the detritus. A focus upon shit, well, it fills your head with shit!!