I am up early on my last night in Madison, for now – and Priya Kale sent this with a one line note, “You will appreciate this.” It is a conversation with Osho on the subject of marriage and children. Incidentally, Priya grew up near Pune, where the original Osho ashram was. Here, we get a glimpse of why he was such a controversial figure.
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You don’t call Vivek a relationship? Whether body was involved or not that was !
Wow! What this gentleman says here contains a good deal of truth.
Most will reject it because the desire for monagamy is strong and I believe it’s not just because religiosity told us that’s what should be. I believe our desire for this is legititmate but we are unable to manifest this reality.
The reasons are many and they run deep etched into the very soul and until we really experience self love , self knowing it will remain. Relationships can help in that they are extremely instrumental in revealing to us who we are provided that we are willing to continually examine our part in the relationship with as much honesty that can be aquired at the moment. I say this because with each time we put effort to become aware clarity reveals how dishonest we can be , how easily we believe disconnection or the discord in a relationship is due to a myriad of other things giving way to thoughts such as “if he/she would only do/or not do this , or be this/or not be this …I can’t reveal/or need to hide this from .. ect.. this leads to all types of manipulative behavior in infinite ways emotionally and mentally. None of this is honest and without honesty there can be no real love.
This truth is within all of us, and its insistant allowing no substitutes that even if our manipulation tactics succeed we find our misery remains. Getting physically naked is easy , to be emotionally , spiritually naked requires honesty with self as well as another and is not as easy. The quality of sex rides heavily on the second factor. Eric has written about this in numerous ways, numerous times.
What I’ve noticed within myself is that anothers hangups or things they grapple with I mistakenly took on personally and even allowed it to be a barometer of my value. Intellectually this remained hidden from me until I really took a good hard look at my actions , reactions , and responses…. which were all insane…
This is a crazy head trip ….but we all seem to do this due to the intensity of the intimate relationship. But it is in these relationships that we get the opportunity to uncover , heal , and recover that which was lost to us from that first relationship through emotive experience with parents . Most of us can’t become Spock and don’t you find it amusing that no matter how intellegent , mature there are or have been times your behavior in relationships has been emotionally off the wall? Unless your Spock the head will never rule the heart and was never meant to .. The only access that we have to this emotional data is through our present emotional behavior. Don’t let your mind do all your walking you’ll stumble everytime.
Just Look and Patterns start to be seen… and as with all things false the hallmark is the rigidity. This rigidity is from a core belief system/filter which color all thoughts which is emotionally based but for which the intellect is very adept at dismissing the reality of using a myriad of tactics. When emotions run strong , at high intensity these are the times to honestly examine your behavior not allowing the intellect to explain away blaming the circumstances or the other people that may be involved (no matter what they did.) When you allow this you surrender your power…
Although our power is limited to only ourselves when harnessed freedom , peace and clarity follow in a huge way in every area.
So if you ever asked yourself “why me?” How did I end up here with him/her” Life sucks , what did I do to deserve this ?” Check your pattern , for me this conflict is either my jailer or liberator. Where I choose to focus my power and energy determines which it will be. At times I’m in jail before I know it but then I make another choice and obtain a key.
Another thing that makes this hard is that the choices aren’t what we most want. In fact they can set a course of action that is the last thing we want and I know I spent much more time in pain than I needed to by resisting what was inevitable. Pain will be had either way but the difference is misery multiplied exponentialy only getting worse verses freedom , contentment and a clarity that you have to experience yourself the words can’t convey..
As for Marriage by definition should be a fertile ground that cultivates growth,expansion and life . Just as the Union can produce a physical “Life” it should more importantly also be facilitating, fostering growth in the spiritual lives of one another.
Unfortunately while we seem to be proficient in producing the physical life , we are severely deficient cultivating the latter.
There is more than ample proof that this is the case for many marriages as well as the offspring.
Maybe the political right should realise that it’s not anything “outside” threatening the institution of marriage but in actuality ” Rot from within” it’s existing spurious state .
L.
Myst, no shit eh?! Full garb baby! (laughing…..)
Love the hat. And the upholstery shoulders.
Seems to me that he didn’t say anything about avoiding long term relationships at all. He simply stated that when it’s over you should move on. A long term relationship isn’t necessarily the same thing as marriage.
Beautiful! That dude is freakin’ awesome! I must copy that, there’s a bunch of cats who I’d like to have watch that.
Hella appreciated Priya! Hope you’re well love!
Jere
“He did have a longterm relationship…”.
How do you know that? Hearsay? And what is a relationship in your eyes?
Vivek was his caretaker. Osho had no personal “relationships”.
Osho had Saggie Sun Gemini ascendant and a Uranus Square to his Venus and heaps of Cappy in his eighth house He did have a longterm relationship much of the time he was known as Bhagwan/Osho with a woman he had loved as a teenager in their previous incarnations