Question — is it just me, or was there something different about men of this era? This was filmed (not videoed) in Paris in 1970. I mean, I know these guys are rock stars and all, but gee fucking whiz. Every kind of hot!!
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96 comments, ha ha, great stuff! im catching up reading kinda late, but here is a nice benchmark…..
http://vodpod.com/watch/203283-question-mark-and-the-mysterians-96-tears
I agree with Eric. As much as I was screwing around and doing one night stands with sometimes two men at a shot, I never got herpes or Hep of any kind and no, I never practiced “safe sex” because that wasn’t even a term in the vocabulary yet.
I think my enjoyment and honesty about wanting sex and sharing that part of me (both the “I just want to fuck” and the “I want to give emotional connection to you”) meant that the penetration and exchange of fluids were ok.
As for musicians that turned me on, I can name several. David Lee Roth of Van Halen in all his big hair, shirtless, green-eyed glory, Prince in his brown skin, big eyes, deep sexuality and almost feminine energy, the deep bass line of “City of Love by Yes (I could just fuck to the rhythm of that base line…slow and deep) and Lindsey Buckingham’s “Trouble” (I had a real good fuck session with a tall, blonde, buff guy to that one), ZZtop’s bass lines on their music, and the pathos of Prince’s “The Beautiful Ones.” I LOVED the music of the 70’s and 80’s because the guitars and musicality were so much better than the angsty stuff of the 90’s and beyond.
Eighties music especially was the soundtrack of my emergent sexuality in late 1978 (lost my virginity then) through 1985. I had several years (after divorcing my very young first husband) of just being a woman on the prowl for a good orgasm. My brother disparagingly said I should have been charging for my favors because it was a shame to use my “bedroom eyes” and give it away for free.
I so wish my own daughters (two of whom will be 18 this fall) could have the same carefree sexual explorations I had; instead they have to worry about HIV-AIDS and safe sex. I know; I sound like a crazy mother but I am not fool enough to think they are not already feeling lust; one has said she is very much feeling it and the other not as much…yet. Instead of pretending they don’t have the same desires and curiosity I had at their age, I prefer to tell them how to be safe while exploring and having fun.
I seem to like musicians that are either the blatently masculine, hard-thrusting kind of males or slightly feminine sexy males. I have figured out that I am probably a bit bisexual though I never got to go “all the way” with any woman. Madonna’s sexuality used to turn me on sometimes because she was so open about it and she has those green eyes…..
Thanks Limnali – I LOVE the Maya Angelou quote. That’s a beauty.
And thanks Shebear for posting the INXS video. It seems so bland now, but at the time I remember that exact video being very hot for me.
And Amanda – I saw Mark Knopfler play just this last April and he was still hot in that same way you describe – cool and relaxed yet grounded in the fire of creative energy.
Does my sexiness upset you?
Does it come as a surprise
That I dance like I’ve got diamonds
At the meeting of my thighs?
from “Still I Rise” by Maya Angelou
Sam, I didn’t imply Kim’s words are not valuable by posting a song from another artist.
Honestly, it was the reference to diamonds in Kim’s lyrics that made me think of the Ms Dynamite song, and that Eric had just mentioned the topic of STDs. Her song addresses both AIDS and diamonds, along with gender roles, stereotypes, and the need to make your own informed choices regarding sex.
“let my lyrical tongue be your medicine”
The entirety of rock / rock and roll is copying from black people and selling it to white people. All the root rockers are black guys, from Little Richard to Bo Diddly; John Lennon told us this is who got him going. But as Ezra Pound said, “Good writers borrow, great writers steal.”
Now as for loving dick, cunt and licking ass…and masturbation orgies.
Hey, I’m too [some adjective] to get that reference.
“ooh oooh ooh mr. kotter!” 😉
And some will blow your mind with how cleverly they can articulate their liking for dick 🙂
Patty – definitely a generational thing? Rap and Hip Hop ARE music, just not your flavor and that’s cool, but there are artists who are choosing to create different sounds with different kinds of instruments and not all are crass and crude, and some so clever they will blow your mind with their articulation of current social and political issues. This is the whole problem I think with the understanding that mainstream rap/hip hop is the only representation of the genre, when much of it is as dumbed down as possible. Personally some Dylan, Stones and Moody Blues are extremely boring to me also, but I can still appreciate their musical talent. Peace love.
Rolling Stones had the class to copy music from black people and sell it to white people
Thanks Sam. I did see the earlier conversation but didn’t choose to address it specifically because I don’t know Ms. Dynamite’s work nor enough of Lil Kim to compare either. And ye, perhaps I was not as articulate as I could be as to my understanding of the difference between mainstream rap/hip hop and what is considered more conscious rap/hip hop. I’m sure you know rap is just one element of hip hop, and many feel that it’s been disconnected and exploited in ways that yea, us old skool peeps think is less conscious and in many ways dismisses the history of the music and its culture. I would guess – but make no assumptions – that that’s part of why some artists choose how they define their music. To me, it’s like how KRS ONE says it, “rap is something you do, hip hop is something you live”. Rap has it’s place, but …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_jH_o4H0Zc
and give me some new/old school hip hop any and every day.
cheers 😉
All I can say is, bring back real music. At least 60s and 70s musicians could play their own instruments. Rap and Hip Hop is NOT music – good grief it gives me a headache to listen to the scratching record and electronics drum beat that never gives in. It is Yanni in even worse taste, if that’s possible. At least the Moody Blues, Dylan, Rollings Stones et al were clever, never crass, crude or BORING. Hopefully saturn in libra will help this fine art of lyric and composition writing with a little style and class.
Also I realize my sentence about erudition was poorly punctuated. I meant the hip hop musicians want to be erudite and old school by avoiding the label “rap,” not necessarily the fans of those artists. Although there’s always the possibility of that as well.
Hey hey Stormi,
Sorry, but your comment seemed to have come in response to an earlier discussion of this Ms. Dynamite person in comparison to Kim, so it read as if you were saying Dead Prez is the conscious one in the group. Your comment also seemed to draw a distinction between rap and hip-hop implying that this attribute of “consciousness” belongs more to one than the other, and since I know that Dead Prez and that whole group like Mos Def etc, it sounds like you’re saying people who belong more to the realm of rap like Biggie and Kim are not. The original conversation also concerned an implication that raunchy Kim’s direct sexual descriptions are less sexy and also less valuable than what I read as a kind of too-good-for-you-ness in Ms. Dynamite lyrics. So my response was in disagreement on these points. The comment that maybe you just don’t know Biggie and Kim was not really fair, though, so I apologize for that.
“I think the idea that Dead Prez is somehow conscious while Lil’ Kim isn’t to be totally ridiculous. I think Biggie fucking Smalls was more conscious than Dead Prez, if you really wanna know.”
huh. well i never said one was more conscious than the other, nor did i share to engage in a tit for tat as to the erudition of who can rap or not and who chooses to define their music as hip hop or not. i’m a huge fan of wu-tang, and think biggie & lil kim have some flavor too, but also didn’t share to be critiqued based on assumptions of what i do or do not know. i made a personal statement and chose to drop a different flavor into the mix. no attack intended, nor necessary.
And hey Eric, I’m posting my Lil’ Richard link here again so you don’t have to dig up the old post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3CfKe0Xan4&feature=related
The reason I wanted to post this originally is because this man is just simply stunning.
I think the idea that Dead Prez is somehow conscious while Lil’ Kim isn’t to be totally ridiculous. I think Biggie fucking Smalls was more conscious than Dead Prez, if you really wanna know. Dead Prez seemed like they were selling something to an audience who wouldn’t buy the other stuff. Maybe most people who bought into Dead Prez and these other not very good at rapping but good at liberal politics prefer to call themselves hip hop rather than rap cause it sounds old school and erudite folk never took the time to listen to Wu Tang or Biggie or Kim and so they just don’t know what they’re missing and also don’t know what it is they’re criticizing. Eric, what you say about Eve Ensler just about sums up the trouble with these Ms. Dynamites and Dead Prezes and Jill Scott and all that. If there were no other rappers around to criticize, no one to shake a finger at, I wonder what they’d have to say. Highly unlikely they’d be singing the ode to masturbation orgies…
there can be a huge difference between rap and hip hop, personally i prefer my music conscious – like this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PM1T3NCx3Y
If what I am reading is true — that Ms Dynamite is singing about AIDS awareness and responsibility, then welcome to the purity ball.
She’s playing with the same tension dynamic of striving for purity in a thunderstorm of hormones, and with her marvelous sheen of glamor; of wanting for the purpose of not having, which is the essence of Western capitalism and advertising. Not for enjoying desire, but for exploiting it, which means for another purpose. It’s a little like Eve Ensler making her living on rape, the fear of rape and unresolved trauma associated with it. If not for rapists, Eve would be out of a job. She should have a dinner to honor them. We would learn a lot.
There is no “about” as strictly pertains to the words of a performance (which I cannot understand, and I don’t think they’re designed to be understood, but the smug rage is difficult to miss). The visuals and music evoke one experience, one response, and that experience has nothing to do with “safe sex” and personal responsibility. Let me ask you something. After that show, do you think that Ms Dynamite and her buddies go back to their suite and have a masturbation orgy?
Ok this topic has got me on a roll. I want to say that I think that you know you know how to make positive choices about your sexuality when you could listen to and perhaps enjoy (depending on your libidinous preferences) a song about (for example) having some man with whom you exchanged a hot glance as you walked by yesterday afternoon drip cum all over your pussy with no mention of establishing boundaries and trust and no mention of going downtown to the STD clinic together and no mention of getting an IUD inserted or taking the pill and you don’t worry that it’s going to somehow taint you or others or the environment with sexual recklessness, disrespect, and disease.
Actually I think it’s a false dilemma, I think the real reaction many people express when they criticize someone like Kim isn’t against the threat of AIDS or even against the pimp and ho dynamic, it’s actually a reaction against speech, against what it would feel like to be the one who steps up to the mic and says, “I don’t want dick tonight, eat my pussy right.” Because the truth is that if we listen to the voice of our sexual nature we find all kinds of stuff there that is perhaps impractical, risky, and not a good idea for translation into action. But in my opinion being choosy about how you act doesn’t require turning off those fantasies. I also dislike the implication that a higher satisfaction is to be found in songs expressing what we ought not to, what so and so doesn’t like (gangstas pimps and hos). I think it’s interesting how in that first song Ms. Dynamite is all shaking her booty in front of the camera while giving this message of no no no. Shake the booty, be my guest, but it would be hotter to know what she does like. Until she does, I’ll take a woman who can say, “I don’t want dick tonight, eat my pussy right.”
To say what I mean just a bit more directly — AIDS awareness is absolutely necessary and good, but I don’t think AIDS awareness is sexy. Sex is sexy. I think we ought to be clear about that. As for Ms. Dynamite, to me she’s a bit cold looking and her sound doesn’t feel as organic as Kim’s does, but that’s me and my libidinous tastes talking again.
I think it’s important to recognize the difference between what we as people do/should do and what we as people sing about. I don’t think rap music needs to be a PSA for safe sex. And if you listen to Lil’ Kim, I think it’s pretty clear that she’s describing a dynamic of being in charge of and enjoying her sexuality. She has a song all about how tonight she just wants to get her pussy licked and not fucked. She also has songs about how she wants to fuck all kinds of different people. I mean, the realm of art is the realm of fantasy made visible or audible or palpable. Art doesn’t need a condom.
Can Your Pussy Do the Dog?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDjHDmL3Kp0
A woman singing about taking responsibility for her own sexuality is a turn on to me.
I think Ms Dynamite is advocating making positive choices in regard to your own sexual experiences, taking responsibility for it, and also for AIDS awareness.
Ms Dynamite has hip-hop, R&B, reggae, and rap roots. Some of her songs have more R&B influences, but she got her start as a rapper.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnauS1rnDiI
I’m all for rubbing, licking, sucking, and sticking whoever floats your boat, but you gotta be safe! To me that means emotionally, physically, and spiritually safe.
Oh… the girl is a Cancer…
Just found this sort of mix tape version of that song Big Momma Thing. It’s very raw and it just has… spunk?! Her voice, even full of bravado, feels real, and you can feel that she loves this, loves rapping.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlR_0Nx2gA8
You can see in the photos of her that she is all over the map, and I think it’s no wonder because putting oneself in a position like this woman did, saying what she’s saying, having the skill that she’s got, in that crazy business… the toll it would take unless you could detach a bit from it all…
Eric, let’s get her a subscription and do her chart!!
Well, those lyrics are certainly more politically incisive, but the topic at hand was sex appeal. Some people do say that they’re more turned on by people who espouse certain ideologies — Jesus, cultural studies, anarcho-punkism and what have you — but I think those people have got their faculties confused. Not that it’s an either-or tradeoff, but I mean damn, Lil’ Kim is asking us if we like how she rubs her pussy while she rides a dick, and she’s telling us she’d like to lick Prince’s asshole. Yeah, I like it. I don’t think this Ms Dynamite is really rapping, by the way, she seems like an r&b singer. “I’ve heard it all before, gangsters pimps and whores.” Fine critique but I don’t see her really bringing anything else to the table. Lil’ Kim’s as a rapper has a really snappy great flow; furthermore, at least at the beginning of her career, she was pretty damn earthy and it felt like she was channeling some energy that is actually part of makes the world go round.
I prefer rap lyrics like these….
“If it’s not too complex, tell me how many Africans died for the baguettes on your Rolex?”
“It Takes More” by Ms Dynamite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSQHfChUqZY
In response to Emily about rap lyrics —
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpRfpk311NU
“Baby it’s a big momma thing, can’t tell by the diamonds in my rings? That’s how many times I wanna come. 21, and another one and another one…”
Although she’s now abused her body beyond recognition (as did Little Richard before her), she was once mad powerful, and it’s that kind of power that usually gets brought most low. She has another song off that same album called Dreams about all the r&b singers she’d like to fuck: “What the deal on that Prince cat, he be lookin fruity, but you still could eat that booty.”
Ah I see, I guess I was one url too many. All I knew is that the comment was marked as “in moderation.” It wasn’t that I thought I was being censored, I was just excited to display my libidinous preferences to the world!!!
PW is not moderated — but we have a powerful spam filter that will stop posts that contain two URLs. I’ll fish it out.
Has anyone noticed that you never see spam on our blog?
Hey why is my original response where I offered Little Richard and that one Springsteen recording as well as Muddy still in moderation? I was really trying to step up to the plate with my libidinous tastes, man….
Ya it was a different time. I got to live through the very end of it, in the early 80s when I first started sex. We were just not worried about this stuff, and I was not ignorant.
Hep was non issue in the 60s and 70s and even into the 80s — and most people don’t care today. It is rare enough, and it does require blood contact of some kind, which can include semen. To get Hep, start having unprotected sex with junkies. Then it’s nearly a sure thing, but the immune system is truly beautiful. The thing with Hep is you can get Hep A from oysters or clams or the guy making sandwiches at Subway (it is obscenely virulent), and then if untreated, that can morph in to Hep B or C. Does anyone test for it? I do, when I do a round of STD tests; just because. Your basic safer sex procedures are going to protect you from that, however, it is a lot easier to get than HIV.
Nobody even considered herpes an STD until Time magazine comes out with it on the cover at some point around 1981 or 1982. It’s “for life” (like allopathy says of any viral infection) but for most people it is merely symptomatic, vis, it “cannot kill you” and it’s basically in inconvenience, which (per betty dodson’s descriptions) was dismissed casually in the 70s. Your average folk are not sitting around pondering the different things that their immune system is processing. To me that is the real downside of herpes — that it’s a stress on the immune system, it’s a sign of immune stress, and it creates a physical vulnerability during an outbreak that can lead to other issues.
But — this is new stuff to think about for most. As it works out, most people don’t get most of these diseases or don’t manifest them to a serious degree. I wonder, for example, what it means that 95% of us test positive for herpes 1 or 2 antibodies. This is why I think we have to focus on and observe the energy level and all the other dimensions of karma that happen in a sexual exchange. Sex magnifies karma of all kinds. My sense is that when people are truly clear to share penetrative sex or to fluid bond, they will know it.
Here is a definitive Sultans live — 11 minutes, special performance called A Night in London
Jere, sweetie… I’ll find that link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVAWKfJ4Go
My son introduced this to me a couple of years ago; it’s the anthem of every eff’ed up, genius, broken, monster beautyman I have ever known.
I just hope he’s not one of them.
TBA, eh?
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By the way, I’m in downtown L.A. right now. Are you in SoCal?
If so, find me. Here till Monday.
xo,xo
M
I’m with you Nance. Michael Hutchence of INXS did it for me. MmmmM!
I don’t think much of this video now, ‘cos it seems so dated, but Michael’s undeniably sexy strutting is worth checking out and lusting after!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkLL7JdnIk0
What a loss.
RIP Michael.
Chicago – great in 1973 and even better now, but the Beatles were it in early and mid 60s (although they did seem rather sexless in a childlike way, now that I think about it except for Ringo); Rolling Stones – manly men compared to the Beatles; early Bob Dylan; 80s Tina Turner;soul men Johnny Cash and Neil Young at any age; Mark Knopfler, Neil Diamond – sexiest. Tom Jones was hottest man alive when I was in a home for unwed mothers in 1969. Yep, the college girls thought he was it. He wasn’t my cup of tea but I thought I’d throw that in. The college girls would have been born around 1947, whereas I was but a babe, born in 1951. I thought they were old even then.
I was born in the spring of 1960; and I’m soooo glad I was a teen in the 70s!
Gimme make-up wearing weird space rockers any day!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEalg62F8Zg
emily, i agree – there is ALWAYS good music to be found. Any current market “trend” or current method for “discovering talent” definitely has an ebb and flow — for the better or worse of my listening ears (clasififed as “golden” BTW :l.
I just discovered that Mary McCaslin is out of Santa Cruz (I had thought it was Seattle; guess that’s where I “discovered” her). She’s a long-time favorite – but only one of the many many genres and musical artists I enjoy – from every era!
Say “hey” for music. And Sex. And Soul.
‘=X
I loved this band in the 70’s, but don’t remember finding them particularly sexy back then. They have a richer sound and emotional content that I really enjoy. I went from age 6 to 16 during the 70’s. When I was younger during the early 70’s, I remember hearing the Beatles, the Stones, Elvis, the Jackson 5, Sonny and Cher… The obvious music you wouldn’t miss as a youngster. Later in the 70’s I remember enjoying Led Zeppelin, Dire Straits, The Who, Traffic, Bob Dylan, Neil Young, David Bowie… The guitar players were a big turn-on for me during those formative years – Jimmy Page, Mark Knopfler, Steve Winwood, Pete Townsend, Eric Clapton. I saw my first Dead show in 1980 and loved Bob Weir in his short cutoffs and .
The early eighties brought great fun music for those college years – Talking Heads, B-52’s, U2, REM, The Pretenders, Prince and the whole Minneapolis scene…
Good memories. Before there were music videos, seems like there wasn’t that much emphasis on musician’s looks. I remember looking at the photos in the LP inserts and the sexy standout memories are of Led Zeppelin and Traffic.
Later, Michael Hutchence of INXS, The Red Hot Chili Peppers… I’m sure I’ve forgotten alot of what was exciting to me back then, but it is really fun trying to remember!
okay, i know this officially later than the era under discussion, but i offer this up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB3b1W6rEDw
it’s dire straits doing sultans of swing (alas, the guitar solo at the end gets faded out).
there’s incredible musical proficiency, and mark knopfler has such *ease* in his playing; kind of a nonchalant confidence. and what really gets me is his mouth and the look in his eyes: i think they belie the fire and sensuality powering the music.
i’m having a hard time really describing how i feel/see it. like the hot motor inside and the cool, relaxed exterior create this really fun tension & he lets it play out in his mouth and eyes, a little in his voice at moments. just enough seduction to know he’s a man & knows it without beating his chest.
hair: better than the moody blues, but plenty of room for improvement. 😉
oh, and i’m sorry, but i find the song title cheesy, too…
not exactly “light my fire” or “are you experienced?”
i have to say, i’m not getting any heat from this. i can appreciate the harmonies & musicianship, but i agree with sam about the dorky head-bobbing. it’s not a song i was previously familiar with & to be honest, found it a little boring.
like, to the point it actually amazes me that someone i share other tastes with is so into it! sorry… 🙂
i’d say it might be generational (i was born in ’74), but there are rockers from the 60s & 70s i do feel it with — that seriously driving guitar-drums-bass direct line-in to the libido. amazing stage presence, etc. oh well.
and yeah, the whole bushy-hair-mustache-painted-on-jeans thing has never done it for me. i like “au natural” men just fine, but this era just took men’s hair to new lows. sorry.
and being of the AIDS generation, i’m certainly envious of carrie’s carefree description of her sexual youth. but i have to ask: what about herpies? isn’t that usually for life? and hepatitis?
Aside — That recoding of Muddy was produced (as part of The Last Waltz) by Mr. Rob Fraboni. Rob also produced Bob Dylan’s album PLANET WAVES and is a Planet Waves subscriber, a gentleman and true friend.
I’ll put in a word on libidinous tastes here.
Lodge on bass – great face, dimples, strong chinlines, beautiful eyes, balanced body… Aesthetically a turn on.
Hayward is too pretty for me, yet his voice…mmmmmmmm.
Pinder looks like fun to play with.
By the 80s it was hard to find a small venue with real music……and no doubt a shift happened while we were going from earthy to glitzy during the 70s.
My personal experiences in NYC in the 70s are a broad spectrum; Donna Summer in all her sexual glory (stadium venue) Don McClean (small Greenwich Village venue) and people like Patti Smith and Sid Vicious spitting on anyone anywhere in the Bowery.
Backing up a decade, in the 60s in Detroit, everyone had a MoTown Artist as a neighbor, friend or classmate.
MoTown moved from Detroit to LA in 1972.
That right there is one huge statement about the nature of that shift from homegrown-with-a-core-of-emotion (and church singing!) and the lure of glitz for the sake of glitz.
[Yeah he’s old and portly, but he’s a MAN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQzZhkn0h98%5D
Not that there’s anything wrong with being old and portly. I mean I guess that’s my whole point since I think he’s hot. Hotter than those head bopping boys…
Oh, I like it when you get all snippy like that. It’s cool Eric, you can like dorky rock and roll guys, it’s kind of cute.
Here are my offerings:
A gentleman who is really underappreciated in this current era. Also he’s just plain stunning in my humble opinion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3CfKe0Xan4&feature=related
Yeah he’s old and portly, but he’s a MAN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQzZhkn0h98
And back in ye olde realm of rock and roll — this is just so intense, although the bridge in this song sucks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoH6NgwI7_Q
Well, I move that we open the floor to a discussion to the libidinous tastes of the women here. I am so happy that several admit to having them!
There are lots of rock stars out there, and everyone else.
Hi Sam!
Hey these guys seem really dorky to me. Look how they’re bobbing up and down over the microphones — to me it looks like they had to wait till those tight pants came into style to notice or admit they had something going on below their waists.
To be fair, my judgement obviously stems from the particulars of my own libidinous tastes as much as from any other criteria.
These boys may have learned to sing like this in church — such as the boarding school choir. There is a liturgical quality to their harmonies, which are disciplined and clear. In particular they have the ‘attack’ down (dumb word, I know, but it means the first part of the sound of a note) — nice and strong — they come on coordinated, with a burst of energy, and I love the feeling of seeing a band that practices. Can you imagine how many times they ran through that on the way to composing, arranging and getting it ready to go? Over and over? That may be why I can listen to it 25 times and it remains interesting.
The end is a little messy; that’s a kind of flaw, but easily addressed. Perhaps it reflects the informatlity of the setting. Those guys were pretty famous by then and it looks/sounds like there are 150 people in the room, max. Perhaps a hint from the Sixties that we were better at strong beginnings than careful endings. That said, the work ethic — what we call musicianship — is a pleasure to see; it’s like watching African drummers who live their music.
One astrology quality different in 1970 (the last year of the Sixties) than through most of the decade was that the Virgo energy had begun to dissipate; by this time, Uranus was in Libra, while Pluto is still finishing up its run through Virgo. Libra opens things up, popularizes an aesthetic (clearly ushered in by The Beatles in the decade prior, and established as a technical standard, Virgo energy). The postmodern psychedelic quality of Uranus in Virgo gives way to true innovation. Into the 1970s, stadium rock stole the show and Ziggy played guitar, but it would be interesting to explore what else was going on. I know it was one of the richest eras for the down-home Grateful Dead.
The vocals are outstanding on this one too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dzRdyC0abA
Those vocals!!!! Holy fuck. And the guitar just drives it that much deeper into my brain.
And I haven’t mentioned the very fine camera work…
Patty, “Right On!”
(in a word)
.love.peace.end to war.
xxoo
aword,
Fine print? Since when did anyone need to read fine print for military service enlistment? Do the kids think it is a video game? Parents need to wake up out of their drugged stupor and explain a few things to their kids. Sheesh.
Patty,
The young men and women being shipped off to war in 2010 are signing up, not being drafted. Big difference re: apathy on the part of those not going.
Of course, many of those who sign are not being given the full/true story about their choice.
But by the time the small type in their contract becomes bold, it’s too late.
As always, there are those who truly believe in the choice they are making.
But about that draft……….in a year my son will have to register.
Not liking that one little bit. Not with a war escalating.
I hope it does NOT take years of a draft to raise more anti-war emotion here.
Nance – wow! sounds like even Lady Gaga has her power trip backwards. What about giving her “creativity” when and where she pleases – not living in “fear” that it’ll be sucked out of her? wow. we have done baaaad things to this generation.
Hey Carrie! Yep – totally – should be no limit as to the number of people on said “marital” contract. If six people of various sexual orientations wanna be a legal family, that should be up to them not the church, uh, ‘legal system’.
hair didn’t have anything to do with style back then. It was a social statement, and it was the way white people related to Indians, Blacks and other minorities – best they could do at the time. The hair gel came later, along with style, along about the yuppie stage. In the 60s early 70s, it was ‘long haired hippy people need not apply’ and then we could sit around and talk about how cool we were, man.
It was an exciting time to be alive.
What I’m wondering is, what are the young people doing now to make the social statement? What is the social statement? I don’t see a clear message really. No-one’s even that worked up about the wars.
I’m still worked up about the Moody Blues!
Beyond the fine muscle definition and the healthy reek of testosterone, it is clear that they are each enjoying their own creative source in collaboration with each other. Their combined 2nd chakra creative fire is so hot I can still feel it 40 years later.
It’s back to the power of the pelvic bowl. These guys are not afraid to create and not afraid to express the truth of their creation.
I saw this quote on the Doonesbury website today and found it super interesting:
“I have this weird thing that if I sleep with someone they’re going to take my creativity from me through my vagina.” — Lady Gaga
aword,
You wrote, “Therefore Any Group of Ones who are in Like Love or otherwise interested in combining financial resources into what they consider a “home” or “family” should be allowed legally to enter into said “marital” contract.”
I would add that this should include poly marriages as well.
You also said, “EXCEPT “EWWWW!!” fathers with their daughters. That just needs to be taken out back and put straight into the compost heap.”
Perfectly said.
I’m really pissed I can’t access this video with my iPod, however am laughing with the comments and visualizing…..well….all kinds of weird shit! On a more serious note, phonecalls went out over the past few days about aerial spraying of Mosquitos for triple E, anyone have info on this?
Peace
Patricia
Carrie,
I agree completely with you re: the Ewwww!!!! factor reeeeking from those pics. The incest was heavy in and about them.
Clearly these fathers own their daughters hearts-souls-bodies until they relinquish them to another man for reproductive-social-financial purposes.
Isn’t it interesting how Eric put this in front of us the day that Prop 8 was deemed unconstitutional in CA? (Must be that new Synchronicity Feature here at PW..;=)
I say the next step (which relates both to PurityMindFucks and “same”-sex marriage) is that we accept that there are more than two types of sexuality AND that Marriage is not a sexual contract nor a “love” or “romance” contract. It is a financial contract. Done.
Therefore Any Group of Ones who are in Like Love or otherwise interested in combining financial resources into what they consider a “home” or “family” should be allowed legally to enter into said “marital” contract.
EXCEPT “EWWWW!!” fathers with their daughters. That just needs to be taken out back and put straight into the compost heap.
::::laughing hysterically:::: Oh my. Purity balls = pure “balls.” How funny!
On a serious note, the NY Times article gave me that bad “sex is involved where it shouldn’t be” feeling because it is about fathers and daughters and sexuality….does anyone else feel like those two don’t really go together except in cases of incest? Ewwww. I know that a father’s healthy involvment in his daughter’s life affects her later sexuality but “later” is the operative word. I think a father has NO business being involved in any way with his daughter’s sexuality; her sexuality is HERS and not his and as such is personal to HER. He can feel concerned about her getting either physically harmed or emotionally harmed by her choices but he has NO business getting involved about her sexuality. It just feels so WRONG to me. Just as his sexuality is not his daughter’s business and should not be something she even has to think about as she grows and figures out who she is; at that age she is supposed to focus on HER OWN life and choices, not HIS. It just feels WRONG and twisted somehow. My “ewww factor” radar is going off like crazy.
Oh yes. This video reminds me that I am lucky enough to have been born in 1960. That means I got to have the amazingly fun sexual days in the early 80’s…pre-AIDS. Oh how fun it was then to just get laid for the sake of the orgasms and excitement! Just hop on over to the local free VD clinic every so often, get tested (it was always negative) and go out and fuck some more. Hot young men, full of testosterone, full of semen, full of sexual energy and hard thrust! ::::fanning self:::: Between my now amazing sex life with Dh (it has gotten pretty hot lately) and this walk down memory lane I need a cold shower :::laughing::: Ahhh…those were the days when men were artists, not plastic showpieces.
I always have loved the melodious sound of the Moody Blues.
a fave:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hSVpFQDaOI
“It is today as well….but it’s like it’s balled up in clouds that don’t quite make thunder…yet…”
When Yet?
Born in in the 70’s, but since then its been one disappointing decade after another. Well, the 90’s were kind of interesting.
Did my generation miss out?
I want some 🙂
“this is worse than tea bagger….. dumb as I am … they seem to be more into political strategy … this stuff seems like some weird patriarchial cult fantasy…”
Hipgnotic — it’s over the top weird. We all know I have a vivid sixth sense for the erotic and when I project myself into a room full of gorgeous horny teenage girls pumped up on estrogen and suppressed emotion and their newly discovered clits, and sex-deprived middle-aged men who can fully sense that hormonal energy and see the beauty of those girls…basically it’s like a live-action porno cult ritual event. It’s just astonishing. I would do very nearly anything to get into one of those balls with my camera.
Then 88% of those girls start fucking before they get married, according to the NYT article.
WELCOME TO THE ANTI-SIXTIES
Here’s one of my favorite videos from back then. . . David Bowie and the Spiders from Mars – Starman. The bass players’ sideburns are hysterical.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muMcWMKPEWQ&feature=related
I remember being pissed when my boyfriend cut his hair.
this is worse than tea bagger….. dumb as I am … they seem to be more into political strategy … this stuff seems like some weird patriarchial cult fantasy…
Wikipedia entry for “purity balls” was disturbing. period.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purity_ball
pretty depressing stuff…..
………so I’ll get back to the 70s….very sexual time. Really really enjoyed coming of age as it were during a time when sex was still fun and free (although maybe not as “earthy” as during the 60s.)
And thankfully cum Disco, the mustache phase went away.
I think we lost it with Punk followed by Grunge. Goth can be hot but it’s more about repression than freedom. I’m not sure What comes after that….a sense of nothingness….or purity balls.
‘+X
my sister had a BFF that loved the big moustaches caused it tickled her fancy…..
mmm yeah, they’re cute in their skinny jeans, but a big IXNAY to the 70s mustachios.
Ick.
It reminds me of Tea Bagger.
“Purity Balls”
Considering where they are coming from, I think the name they have chosen is sort of comical. Does anyone else?
them’s some fine ass jeans on them boys……
After getting over my initial dislike of the particular (hair, clothing) styles, I realized that there’s actual style here!
A group of men making good music together, with beautiful vocals, real clothes, and a lack of over-processed staging…well, that’s pretty damn sexy to me.
It’s sexier to me than a lot of the male music groups I see today because most of today’s seem kinda neutered or something. I don’t sense the steamy sexy energy that’s in these guys. If there *is* sexual energy in most groups today, it’s accompanied by ugliness or smugness. Or so it seems to me.
Yes Angie – the drummers legs have definite hotness!
And hypnotic – ditto on really hearing this song for the first time.
Sweet.
okay, last comment… I have heard this song a million trillion times growing up in the era and my sister playing the lp over an over — i think even a quad version, with the 4 speakers… remember that technology?
anyway, i never really appreciated the song until now….
“Too bad the tight jeans went out of style!”
Nance, I’m sure you noticed the drummer’s jeans and the beautiful definition of his body.
purity balls?!! is this for real!!
im trying to think of something clever or funny to say, or a comment to make but all i can come up with is
this is truly sick…..
The young Justin Hayward has me opting into my 1990 body for a time-traveling sex adventure to Paris, 1970. I’ve not pondered a time-traveling sex fantasy before now. Fun. I must be getting better!
This song relates to the storm you smell brewing – their talk of freedom resonates with me. Seems like we’ve all become slaves to some kind of ego/money/corporate overlords.
‘Let’s find another place that’s free!”
Of course Im kidding!! I get a kick out of the 70s styles! Though I do prefer the Glam era (David Bowie, Marc Bolan), when boys weren’t afraid to be pretty…
not commenting on the musicians, just the styles…
Trent Reznor, and Johnny Cash..
..sorry for the non-link.. I’m not well right now..
J
Check out Cash’s “hurt”
I was contrasting what I was seeing in this 1970 film to the astrology of that era, when Pluto was in Virgo, Uranus was in Libra, Chiron was in Pisces…the energy in 1970 was on fire.
It is today as well….but it’s like it’s balled up in clouds that don’t quite make thunder…yet…
Eric and Brendan,
What you said.
Creative, inspired, un-styled, un-marketed, actually talented…..even if that were the sum total of their parts it would still add up to ultra sexy!
Those were/are real men –(hard to find) the ‘stuff’ that isn’t pre-packaged (but is still creative, intelligent and motivated).
Speaking of hot men…or rather teenage girls…has anyone heard of purity balls?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/19/world/americas/19iht-ball.1.13005348.html?pagewanted=1
here is a collection of photos
http://snipurl.com/109qod
Most of yesteryear’s musicians were just that, musicians, and not personalities who happen to sing a little. Real men? Hell yeah! Neat and tidy hippies even.
I’m with E. on this one.
Yes!
Love their vocals. Amazing.
Too bad the tight jeans went out of style! 😉
“My world is spinning around
Everything is lost that I found
People run, come ride with me
Let’s find another place that’s freeeeeee”
Thanks for the grin.
how about my group:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fly0tfhqX9k&feature=player_embedded
you’re kidding, right?
We’re not accustomed to men with a bit of, well, I would call this style, and you can say neanderthal if you want but that doesn’t match the impeccable performance, the elegant lyrics, the obvious hours and hours of practice of this song. Gorillas are cool but they don’t do that.
more like au neanderthal 😉
keep them away from that stuff!
haha.
I’ll take my men au naturel — just like my women.
um.. yeah they seem to lack access to hair gel , a professional stylist and a moustache trimmer ?