Redefining Discipline — Sun Conjunct Saturn

The Scorpio Sun’s conjunction with Saturn, in effect for days, will be exact at 4:33 am EDT Thursday. It will be the first such merger in nearly three decades because Saturn has taken that long to return to Scorpio. You are invited to the reunion, where your role will be to make the astrology happen by redefining the word ‘discipline’ in your life.

Astrology by Len Wallick

For too many of us, discipline has a negative connotation. For some it is synonymous with punishment. For others, it is the only redemption in drudgery and despair. Discipline is also a word often associated with Saturn.

Of all the planets in the solar system that can be seen without the aid of magnifying optics, Saturn is furthest away from the Sun, and from us. Long before we had an inkling of its distance, and before its trademark rings were discovered, we distinguished Saturn by its slow apparent motion. It was through that deliberate motion, and the enduring nature it implied, that Saturn was correlated with the discipline valued by early civilization.

Anybody who has ever worked on a farm knows the value of discipline. Farming was among the skills that made civilization possible, producing the surplus food needed to feed a settled community of people with diverse and specialized skills. Somewhere along the line, discipline was diverted from nourishing productivity to organized thievery, otherwise known as war. It worked, and it was downhill for discipline’s reputation after that.

    

It’s high time to liberate discipline, and Saturn, from negativity. Scorpio is just the place to do it. You are just the one to do it. You will also have backup, in the form of Neptune in Pisces. Neptune is available to flow over from its Pisces domain to lend a little imagination, assisting your creative efforts to turn the nightmares associated with discipline into the joyous means of achieving dreams.

Dreams can become reality. It is not easy. There are only the most rudimentary guidelines to assist the dreamer who is not content simply to dream. Transforming a private vision into a public reality means taking on the mystery of metamorphosis included in the Scorpio field of action.

Metamorphosis starts with something and ends up with something else that bares little or no resemblance to what you started with. It is natural. Fish-like tadpoles transform into frogs, for example, but it’s not always clear how it happens. It can also be a little scary as the transformation of matter into energy has proven to be. Figuring out how to work with Scorpio energy means going into the dark, possibly being transformed yourself in the process. Braving the dark takes not only discipline, but motivation. That’s where the element of water comes in.

Elemental water is what Pisces and Scorpio have in common. The flowing trine connection between signs that have the same element in common makes it possible for Neptune to apply its dissolving nature to the old ideas of Saturn, and discipline, so that both can be transformed by Scorpio’s energy field.

In addition, the indomitable motivation symbolized by water is beyond reason, and hence beyond discouragement. Water literally wears down the greatest mountains without itself wearing out. Water also characterizes the need that nourishes the dream. But in the dark that Scorpio’s waters represent, creativity requires illumination so that the results are not left to chance.

The Sun is illumination. Day is proof of the Sun. That’s how both the Sun and its daylight come to symbolize waking consciousness. When the Sun conjoins Saturn on Thursday, both members of the long-awaited Scorpio conjunction will still be in a functional, flowing water trine to Neptune that has been even longer in development. It will be a historic moment, representing an actual chance to change the course of history. The final, necessary, crucial ingredient will be you. Your consciousness can build on what the Sun starts.

Only you can provide the dream. Only you can be the source of indefatigable motivation. Only you can illuminate the darkness of history and show the way to a new day when discipline is joy in action and Saturn manifests dreams. If you ever thought that your life in a vast Universe is insignificant and without meaning, think again. You are the means by which the meaning of a distant planet, a word, and human history can be redeemed, with a little transformation and redefinition left over for all of us and where we live. Astrology works through you.

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14 thoughts on “Redefining Discipline — Sun Conjunct Saturn”

  1. Thank you Len for this tribute Tuesday to this old Saturn in conjunction to the Sun, very heavy birthday who came reactivated old demons in my sky of birth. Also exceptional day with 150 comments on facebook, to celebrate this no ordinary day
    Good weekend to you all

  2. My pleasure Alayne! I’m so pleased. “I forget to listen” – yes, and this is an intense, difficult moment for many – important to get in touch with our stillness at these times.

  3. Thank you, Len. And thank you, Huffy, for reminding me to choose to listen to Handel – Water Music has always been my most-loved work. I forget the power of music. I forget to listen.

    My own thought for today: As with many things, sometimes you only know that something stinks when things are heated up.

  4. Your blog offerings are like meditation poetry. I swirl them around, coming back again and again to their wisdom and depth and am always gaining something. Water, water everywhere and I’m diving deep. Coming out of Saturn in my 8th house, I can say that we have not been on the best of terms, Saturn and I. He was like a fence and I like a horse that kept ramming it to get out, bruising myself every time. And what was on the other side of the fence that I wanted so desperately? My personna. My mask. My pride. My so-called-life. And on the inside of the boundary? The truth. The mirror. The green grass of my true home. But the mask was familiar and I wanted it back, but Saturn held it just far enough away for just long enough that now I don’t want it anymore. And I am thanking my beloved Saturn-the-fence, strong and secure, for allowing me that. I am grateful for the limitations, the container, the context, the format that Saturn is. The question I learned to ask is, will I be oblivious or alert? Unconscious or conscious? Will I work with the freedom within the safety? As Saturn now moves through Scorpio, my 9th, will I work with him and reach deep for hobbit-like adventure courage and discipline myself to study, dive deeper, reach higher and travel farther than I ever have before? So Saturn and I, we made our peace. And, I realize that it has been Love the whole time, the grand workings of a Loving Universe.

  5. Good one Len, thank you.
    I’m in my second Saturn return. I’ve found it helps when I remember to think of discipline as a positive thing.

  6. Hmm…. just thinking, that discipline should also be tempered with a great deal of compassion (for oneself and others), otherwise it risks becoming a punishing, hard taskmaster, especially for people who have a lot of harsh self-judgement.

  7. “Water literally wears down the greatest mountains without itself wearing out”. This will be my mantra for the months to come, dear Len. Thank you for another wonderful water piece – pure poetry, and so helpful. I so agree with you about discipline – it’s a kind of combination of courage, tenacity and awareness, isn’t it?
    Here’s some water music from Handel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U8YVsW9I8U
    Good luck with ‘saturnizing’ your house, dear be!

  8. mystes: Thank you for your kind words. Yes, thank you for asking, we will be looking at the mutual reception piece. One take on it is that it gives us a parallax view of the 2010 cardinal square between the same two planets.

    Amanda: Thank you. The trine you describe should make it easier for you to “get back to work” than to take a break. So, please, take care of your well being – you are important to everybody at Planet Waves.

    wandering_yeti: Thank you so very much for your thoughtful comments. It is not enough to say you have profound wisdom, you go beyond that to a level that the ancient sages were familiar with. Your teachings are accepted gratefully.

    be: Thank you for your teachings as well, wrapped in humor and imparted with grace. Please allow me to repeat my request to Amanda by asking you to take care of yourself as well. We need you here.

    Sina: Thank you so much for your generous affirmation. Please remember to validate your own experience, which contributed to who you are today, and what would we do without you as you are today?

  9. Wow, powerful stuff, Len. Three decades ago, I had the choice of study (discipline) or work (freedom). I’m rueing the day I chose work instead of study. The lack of discipline training has had a huge impact on my life in so many ways. Study really teaches discipline so well, because you achieve something valuable at the end, that still inevitably leads to freedom. The missed opportnities in the past still hurt, and have encouraged me to study now. I’ll be teaching and encouraging my kids better!!! Thank you 🙂

  10. Are you sure Len? Really sure? I’m working hard to Saturnize my home in time for Thursday’s company, and I’m depending a lot on Neptune – washy, wishy (thanks mystes; love the magnifying lens too!) to help morph what was into what bears little or no resemblance to what I started with. It requires discipline for sure.

    I also printed some pictures of my paternal grandparents whom my brother never saw (I only met my grandmother and she died when I was 5) for his daughter to go with a gift of the gold pocket watch (now worn around the neck) with her grandmother’s name inscribed. It is close to 100 years old. I’m hoping it leads to a historic moment like you said. My niece is only familiar with her mother’s side of the family; plenty of them, few on my brother’s side.

    There are other family treasures ready to be carted back to Kansas City with them, along with 12 wrapped Christmas gifts (save on shipping that way) and 2 birthday gifts for the sister-in-law too. it has been an arduous 10 days or so, but I’m shifting the mantle of keeper of family memories onto younger shoulders, except for some family history scrapbooks that are a work in progress. Seems a fitting time, don’t you think?

    As for “possibly being transformed yourself in the process”, it goes without saying that liberation is my reward for all this Plutonian/Scorpio digging into the past. It is transformative and although difficult (clutchy Cancers never give up anything without a struggle) I contemplate my new-found freedom with relish, and maybe a pickle in the middle to go. Thanks for clarifying the astrology behind this endeavor dear Len.
    be

  11. Thanks, Len. Your take on this aspect speaks well to my situation. My Saturn, retro is on the Northern Solstice Point, Cancer’s contribution to the cardinal point. Thus a grand trine is tuning in. Poisoned discipline is in resonance with poisoned water. The public water supply is a pharmaceutical cocktail, and discipline comes from cops? Life in wartime is kinda crazy, priorities all out of whack. I’m trying to become more human in a machine world to manifest examples of the world I want to live in.

    Liberating discipline: nice one. Take it back from the bad daddies and do it yourself. What the bad daddies call discipline isn’t; it’s only food for revenge, abuse, violation. To justify war you have to go through hell to create the criminals who provide the excuses. Life in wartime is crazy. How do you withdraw your consent from the mechanical creature eating the Earth and her people and pooping out money and plastic garbage? Ride the wave ’til the end I guess, pick up the pieces and keep on keeping on. Interesting times. Cooling my own emotional responses seems a sensible application of discipline in a burning world. But cooling in a way that doesn’t turn a blind eye to all the fire and brimstone. Bikes with cars, drink water around booze, tai ji in the city, woods in the city, representing water in a world gone apeshit with fire worship isn’t easy. It wouldn’t be much fun if it was.

  12. funny, it just dawned on me that the sun, saturn and neptune are right now forming a grand trine with my own saturn, smack in my ascendent. hmmmmm…..

    dissolving and redefining discipline, eh?

    guess that means i should get back to work. 😉
    thanks, len!

  13. Coherent *and* graceful, Len. Good work! You’ve thrown a magnifying lens (heheheh) over the potential inherent in Thurs’ coniuntio – for which I will no doubt be conscious ~ since I rarely fall asleep before dawn these days. As water is the dominant element in this scenario, we’ll see how Mr. Calcareous (Saturn) fares with all this washy-wishy.

    Prithee, kind sir, a tale of the mutual reception of Pluto & Saturn in Cap and Scorpio sometime soon? As a watersign, I’ve got some kind of dog (or crab) in this hunt.

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