{"id":40976,"date":"2011-07-02T15:00:06","date_gmt":"2011-07-02T19:00:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/planetwaves.net\/news\/?p=40976"},"modified":"2011-07-01T14:02:58","modified_gmt":"2011-07-01T18:02:58","slug":"i-do-but-not-just-because-i-said-%e2%80%9ci-do-%e2%80%9d","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/planetwaves.net\/news\/polyamory\/i-do-but-not-just-because-i-said-%e2%80%9ci-do-%e2%80%9d\/","title":{"rendered":"I Do. But Not Just Because I Said \u201cI Do.\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em><strong>By Maria Padhila<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn sickness and in health.\u201d The phrase from the traditional marriage vow is as comforting as a quilt. You say the words and sign the form, and you\u2019ll have someone there who will hold you at your worst, the belief goes. <\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_39261\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-39261\" style=\"width: 315px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/planetwaves.net\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/325_burnman_bliss_86381.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/planetwaves.net\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/325_burnman_bliss_86381.jpg?resize=325%2C222&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" title=\"325_burnman_bliss_8638\" width=\"325\" height=\"222\" class=\"size-full wp-image-39261\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/planetwaves.net\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/325_burnman_bliss_86381.jpg?w=325&amp;ssl=1 325w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/planetwaves.net\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/325_burnman_bliss_86381.jpg?resize=300%2C204&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 325px) 100vw, 325px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-39261\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Poly Paradise at Burning Man. Photo by Eric.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>It\u2019s nothing original of me to point out that marriage isn\u2019t magic sparkle glue. Newt Gingrich and John Edwards are just famous examples of folks who step out when the staying in gets rough. There are likely many more less-public examples. As for myself, if I\u2019m getting what I need in terms of healing or comfort, I just have one request: Please DO step out! Your sitting home isn\u2019t doing anyone any good. I\u2019ll feel bad if I can\u2019t be with you, but I\u2019ll feel a lot worse if you\u2019re not really living and enjoying your life. That is what makes me happy. So go. Have. Fun.<\/p>\n<p>The benefits of marriage as a legal and cultural institution are much on my mind, with the recent success of New York&#8217;s law allowing marriage regardless of sexual orientation. While I&#8217;m still ambivalent about said benefits, I can&#8217;t see the sense in denying access to a legal contract on the basis of sexual orientation. That&#8217;s just nonsense to me. Denying people health insurance, a say in end-of-life issues, and rights others have in raising children is too wrong to ignore, so I support gay marriage even though I&#8217;m not sure if I support marriage.<\/p>\n<p>Do I think polyamorists should also get in on this marriage law thing? Do we &#8216;deserve&#8217; the right to get married to more than one person? Well, it would be nice not to have to worry about losing your children, your home, your job. But I would like to have some lawyers I know and like work on the wording of that one. I&#8217;m also patient &#8212; I don&#8217;t mind if that battle isn&#8217;t fought, much less won, in my lifetime. <\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Equal marriage rights for polyamorists also might be based on whether poly is choice or orientation. Isaac is absolutely sure that being gay is biologically determined, but believes being poly is a choice. I have no idea. My sexuality is so fluid, so based on the individual person, that I can&#8217;t imagine how I was &#8216;born to be&#8217;, except perhaps mutable. One minute I think, well, if poly were inborn, you would have been surer of it sooner; the next, I think of a woman I know of who didn&#8217;t fall in love with another woman until she was 60 and is completely surprised at herself. It is a huge issue, and one debated a great deal; it&#8217;s one that could use more study.<\/p>\n<p>One thing Isaac said when I first brought up my desire to open things up was that he would be the one who would be around when I was old and sick and disabled (why do we always assume all these things go together?), not some cupcake I\u2019d picked up at a woowoo festival.<\/p>\n<p>OK, not in so many words, but close enough. I think he understands now that my version of poly (which isn\u2019t the same as his; having the option of short-term fun, i.e., cupcakes, is more to his taste) is more about true love. Chris speaks often about how he\u2019s willing to stay with me and help me through anything. Naturally, I hope no one would have to.<\/p>\n<p>Other people have put similar thoughts in. The fixed idea seems to be that the one who marries you legally will have your back forever, and anyone else is just for fun, only in it for the sex, etc. There doesn\u2019t seem to be an opening in most minds to accept that more than one person could love or care that much.<\/p>\n<p>So do polyamorists, in the refusal to &#8220;forsake all others,&#8221; forsake someone who will care for them forever, too? I\u2019ve been reaching out to poly people to talk about sickness and aging, and I\u2019ll have some stories to report as we work through them.<\/p>\n<p>But that\u2019s one of the most appealing aspects of polyamory to me &#8212; especially when one looks at illness and aging, and the way people in our world are doing both more often alone. There is no pain intrinsic to solitude &#8212; in fact, I think I will need more of it as I get older &#8212; and even people living together can allow one another space and privacy, through social compacts and mutual arrangements, even if the floor space is limited in a home. But there\u2019s no denying that having several people live together is practical and beneficial when some or all are experiencing changes in their abilities. I look at the alternatives this society offers as I age, and I see: alone or warehoused. Some people live with their children or other relatives, which can be wonderful I\u2019m sure, but can also be a place for unhappiness and even abuse. Fewer seem to find friends or groups of friends, which seems like the happiest solution; and a group of lovers would hit that sweet spot of stability, happiness, and safety.<\/p>\n<p>Whether or not there\u2019s that much sex going on among these older people &#8212; and there\u2019s more than many people assume, based on what I\u2019m hearing and reading so far &#8212; there\u2019s love going on, and that makes the difference.<\/p>\n<p>Both my loves are very fit; Isaac could be considered an athlete. Yet Isaac has a disability, and Chris has a chronic illness. You would not know this from seeing or even from hanging out with either of them. You might notice a few things eventually, but many people don&#8217;t. Either man might offer a quick explanation if doing a certain activity is difficult but usually don\u2019t mention it. Isaac was raised not to consider himself as disabled, though I have met people at a similar level who do consider themselves disabled. It occasionally causes us some very minor inconvenience, but mostly it&#8217;s nothing. It&#8217;s likely to get more acute as he gets older. Chris actually worries me more. He could become very sick or even die suddenly without regular medication and careful self-attention to how he&#8217;s doing. <\/p>\n<p>Well, lots of things can happen to anyone. There are no guarantees, even among young and healthy, whether they are swingers or ascetics. But should we work out what to do if one of us was sick and dying? Would I want both of them to be responsible for making sure my end-of-life wishes are carried out? Actually, I&#8217;d rather have one of my two best girlfriends make the call. They&#8217;ve known me longer than either guy. And I like the way they think and feel about life. But even if I asked and they agreed, our desire that friends be legal representatives could be undercut by my decision, 15 years ago, to marry under the system that exists here and now. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By Maria Padhila \u201cIn sickness and in health.\u201d The phrase from the traditional marriage vow is as comforting as a quilt. You say the words and sign the form, and you\u2019ll have someone there who will hold you at your worst, the belief goes. It\u2019s nothing original of me to point out that marriage isn\u2019t &#8230; <a title=\"I Do. But Not Just Because I Said \u201cI Do.\u201d\" class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/planetwaves.net\/news\/polyamory\/i-do-but-not-just-because-i-said-%e2%80%9ci-do-%e2%80%9d\/\" aria-label=\"More on I Do. 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