Comments on: Moving on with the signs: Scorpio http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/2009/11/07/moving-on-with-the-signs-scorpio/ Astrology, Horoscopes, Daily Astrology Blog, Weekly Horoscopes, Monthly Horoscopes , minor planets, erotic commentary and more Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:56:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Anna http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/2009/11/07/moving-on-with-the-signs-scorpio/comment-page-1/#comment-11118 Anna Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:45:52 +0000 http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/?p=19007#comment-11118 The past year has been a year of inner conflicts, struggles, a lot of learning, albeit the hard way. Sometimes, I wish I was not so intense and passionate about everything in life, taking things so seriously. There are so many who don't and they seem to be fine with it, why can't I? And yet, I wouldn't choose to be any other way either. I have been through a roller-coaster of trying to figure out what is right and what is wrong, of living through a pretty-much one-sided deep emotional attachment where I have only given, of wondering why these things happen, of wondering or trying to figure out why I have felt this way and what I could have done or can do about it. In general, life has been a constant struggle, and I do have this feeling that both my husband and I as Scorpios have had to work harder than the rest for the same things. No, things are not as depressing as they sound, but what is going on deep inside is a process of delving, dealing with and deciphering life itself. The past year has been a year of inner conflicts, struggles, a lot of learning, albeit the hard way. Sometimes, I wish I was not so intense and passionate about everything in life, taking things so seriously. There are so many who don’t and they seem to be fine with it, why can’t I? And yet, I wouldn’t choose to be any other way either.

I have been through a roller-coaster of trying to figure out what is right and what is wrong, of living through a pretty-much one-sided deep emotional attachment where I have only given, of wondering why these things happen, of wondering or trying to figure out why I have felt this way and what I could have done or can do about it. In general, life has been a constant struggle, and I do have this feeling that both my husband and I as Scorpios have had to work harder than the rest for the same things. No, things are not as depressing as they sound, but what is going on deep inside is a process of delving, dealing with and deciphering life itself.

]]> By: bookroller http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/2009/11/07/moving-on-with-the-signs-scorpio/comment-page-1/#comment-10752 bookroller Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:11:48 +0000 http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/?p=19007#comment-10752 Late to the party, but thought I would like to add a bit to the conversation. On 12/24/2008, my sister (Scorpio sun, Scorpio rising, Scorpio mercury) came to live with me. (Scorpio sun, Sag rising, Libra mercury, Cancer moon). This past year has been an exploration of boundaries, of levels of commitment, of adjusting to two rather strong willed individuals in a household that also held a young Capricorn with a Scorpio moon, just ready to fly. The conversation and motion of this house has been to redefine what is important in each of our lives, and to make room for each other's truths, without too much compromise, and without attempting to crush the paradoxes that are not only in the combination, but within each of us. Praised, adored, fought, cursed -- love is cement. Despite dire predictions from friends on all sides, the partnership experiment endures, and is stronger now than a year ago. Late to the party, but thought I would like to add a bit to the conversation. On 12/24/2008, my sister (Scorpio sun, Scorpio rising, Scorpio mercury) came to live with me. (Scorpio sun, Sag rising, Libra mercury, Cancer moon). This past year has been an exploration of boundaries, of levels of commitment, of adjusting to two rather strong willed individuals in a household that also held a young Capricorn with a Scorpio moon, just ready to fly. The conversation and motion of this house has been to redefine what is important in each of our lives, and to make room for each other’s truths, without too much compromise, and without attempting to crush the paradoxes that are not only in the combination, but within each of us. Praised, adored, fought, cursed — love is cement. Despite dire predictions from friends on all sides, the partnership experiment endures, and is stronger now than a year ago.

]]> By: 7Towers http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/2009/11/07/moving-on-with-the-signs-scorpio/comment-page-1/#comment-10492 7Towers Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:39:27 +0000 http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/?p=19007#comment-10492 # patti.t16 Wow I can identify, I'm lucky in that I have a job with little stress (growing perennials) people I see daily are great. We have our frictions here and there but overall harmony , respect far exceeds egos. I'm greatful for this because my problems which I can relate to all that you mention above are in the home , with my husband. I'm put great effort into trying to think before I speak due to many reasons other than what you have stated above. I too have a keen intuition and was always able to read in people the unspoken although my accuracy improves in proportion to the clarity I have within. In my younger years projection was infused to a larger degree than it is today for now I know to look for it and consider it when forming what I'm picking up. One of the things that I'm trying to work on now is not reacting to how others receive me as well as what I say. I have always tripped all over myself verbally , also felt awkward due to picking up energy that doesn't belong to me , my intention and who I am doesn't need to be explained , how others percieve me is not my responsibility , their misperception belongs to their projection and although I can feel it I am learning to not respond to something that I have not caused and this is hard because it has been a knee jerk reaction that I wasn't aware of the dynamic just assumed I was responsible. This has caused me to be uncomfortable way more than I need to be. The interpertations of Having Neptune right on the Asc seem to invite this tendancy from others and in unawareness I used to cultivate it. Its made grounding my sense of self identity of what is me , mine and what is not and stand strong in self an ongoing process but I have made great progress and although it took great pain I feel it's worth ten times more.. Its so much freer all around this is set straight and is clear within. # patti.t16
Wow I can identify, I’m lucky in that I have a job with little stress (growing perennials) people I see daily are great. We have our frictions here and there but overall harmony , respect far exceeds egos. I’m greatful for this because my problems which I can relate to all that you mention above are in the home , with my husband.
I’m put great effort into trying to think before I speak due to many reasons other than what you have stated above. I too have a keen intuition and was always able to read in people the unspoken although my accuracy improves in proportion to the clarity I have within. In my younger years projection was infused to a larger degree than it is today for now I know to look for it and consider it when forming what I’m picking up.

One of the things that I’m trying to work on now is not reacting to how others receive me as well as what I say. I have always tripped all over myself verbally , also felt awkward due to picking up energy that doesn’t belong to me , my intention and who I am doesn’t need to be explained , how others percieve me is not my responsibility , their misperception belongs to their projection and although I can feel it I am learning to not respond to something that I have not caused and this is hard because it has been a knee jerk reaction that I wasn’t aware of the dynamic just assumed I was responsible. This has caused me to be uncomfortable way more than I need to be.
The interpertations of Having Neptune right on the Asc seem to invite this tendancy from others and in unawareness I used to cultivate it.
Its made grounding my sense of self identity of what is me , mine and what is not and stand strong in self an ongoing process but I have made great progress and although it took great pain I feel it’s worth ten times more.. Its so much freer all around this is set straight and is clear within.

]]> By: 7Towers http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/2009/11/07/moving-on-with-the-signs-scorpio/comment-page-1/#comment-10490 7Towers Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:30:32 +0000 http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/?p=19007#comment-10490 Hey Eric , I'm a Scorpio Rising with Virgo sun and I have been riding this wave of change since 1994 but major action really began to happen in 2000 and has gained momentum with each passing year. At first this overhaul was very difficult if there are even words to describe the experience of having the foundation of what i thought was my life completely stripped leaving an abyss. The reality of all the space left and finding that all distractions that crowded up this space for most of my life failed in one way of or another with most of them becoming stale and dry. In this large amount of space I was faced with a glaring look at this "self" this me that I was or wasn't. This was the most uncomfortable , strange and bizzare place to be because I began to realise that what I thought was a solid life , a concept of a "me" was nothing but smoke. This discovery frightened me adding fear to the already unpleasent state I was experiencing. This lasted with no let up and at times increasing in intensity and the duration was far more longer than I ever anticipated. I eventually abandoned my hope of regaining normality or something other than this bereft state finally surrendering to it my mind being exhausted. This has not been easy but I can conrfidently write that it's the BEST thing that has ever happened to me. My life prior to this was lived unconcious in that 70 percent of choices , actions and thoughts were motivated by feelings of shame , guilt coloring thoughts that dictated my reality. I lived believing that in order to be loved I needed to sacrifice my being and my life was illusion only I was completely unaware of this and would have remained so because I wouldn't have chosen to endure the above . In my unawareness I couldn't have ever orchestrated this process. I know its a Grace that guides us to a fuller life for which there is insistance that we be present, aware of fully being. For what is the point of life without self awareness ? This process continues within and without me and hard times continue but I look for the lesson, try and relax into the mystery which dispels the fear. Hey Eric ,
I’m a Scorpio Rising with Virgo sun and I have been riding this wave of change since 1994 but major action really began to happen in 2000 and has gained momentum with each passing year. At first this overhaul was very difficult if there are even words to describe the experience of having the foundation of what i thought was my life completely stripped leaving an abyss.
The reality of all the space left and finding that all distractions that crowded up this space for most of my life failed in one way of or another with most of them becoming stale and dry.
In this large amount of space I was faced with a glaring look at this “self” this me that I was or wasn’t.
This was the most uncomfortable , strange and bizzare place to be because I began to realise that what I thought was a solid life , a concept of a “me” was nothing but smoke. This discovery frightened me adding fear to the already unpleasent state I was experiencing. This lasted with no let up and at times increasing in intensity and the duration was far more longer than I ever anticipated. I eventually abandoned my hope of regaining normality or something other than this bereft state finally surrendering to it my mind being exhausted.
This has not been easy but I can conrfidently write that it’s the BEST thing that has ever happened to me.
My life prior to this was lived unconcious in that 70 percent of choices , actions and thoughts were motivated by feelings of shame , guilt coloring thoughts that dictated my reality. I lived believing that in order to be loved I needed to sacrifice my being and my life was illusion only I was completely unaware of this and would have remained so because I wouldn’t have chosen to endure the above . In my unawareness I couldn’t have ever orchestrated this process.

I know its a Grace that guides us to a fuller life for which there is insistance that we be present, aware of fully being. For what is the point of life without self awareness ?
This process continues within and without me and hard times continue but I look for the lesson, try and relax into the mystery which dispels the fear.

]]> By: sara http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/2009/11/07/moving-on-with-the-signs-scorpio/comment-page-1/#comment-10478 sara Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:44:31 +0000 http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/?p=19007#comment-10478 A week or two ago, I added to the comment section for Libra, as a Libra Sun. I also have Scorpio rising, and though I am not sure what sign the following fits best with, I thought I'd put it here. This is in response to Eric's second shout out to Libra and Scorpio. One thing I am noticing lately is the way I can be challenged in relation to stress and things that begin to feel overwhelming. I value putting my heart into what I do, and care about value and quality. Sometimes though I feel I may take it too seriously (like creating catering platters for the bakery I work for) and don't allow "lightness and ease" to come into what I do. My heart begins to feel very drained and like energy is seeping out of there; my personal energy field begins to alter. Then a whole range of things begin to feel incredibly stressful instead of just one. How to keep some of the riches of life (opportunities, new experiences) as "life giving" experiences vs stressful ones. How can we keep things in perspective and our energies in balance and enlivened? For me, the stress seems to layer on and around my heart since it's one of the main places I orient from. Thanks, Sara A week or two ago, I added to the comment section for Libra, as a Libra Sun. I also have Scorpio rising, and though I am not sure what sign the following fits best with, I thought I’d put it here.
This is in response to Eric’s second shout out to Libra and Scorpio.

One thing I am noticing lately is the way I can be challenged in relation to stress and things that begin to feel overwhelming. I value putting my heart into what I do, and care about value and quality. Sometimes though I feel I may take it too seriously (like creating catering platters for the bakery I work for) and don’t allow “lightness and ease” to come into what I do. My heart begins to feel very drained and like energy is seeping out of there; my personal energy field begins to alter. Then a whole range of things begin to feel incredibly stressful instead of just one.

How to keep some of the riches of life (opportunities, new experiences) as “life giving” experiences vs stressful ones. How can we keep things in perspective and our energies in balance and enlivened? For me, the stress seems to layer on and around my heart since it’s one of the main places I orient from.

Thanks,

Sara

]]> By: patti.t16 http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/2009/11/07/moving-on-with-the-signs-scorpio/comment-page-1/#comment-10466 patti.t16 Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:05:00 +0000 http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/?p=19007#comment-10466 I'm Scorpio (Mercury, Mars and Neptune also in Scorpio), Capricorn rising, Saturn is also sitting on my ascendant which potentially gives me a double whammy but I am told my Saturn is well aspected. Virgo moon, conjunct Pluto. Venus also in Virgo. I don’t know if my contribution is any help but here goes. To say this has been a difficult year would be an understatement. In fact the last several years have been characterised by chaos (internal and external) but this year it all seemed to come into focus. Without going into crazy detail the issue seems to be about walking that dynamic line between the individual and the group. But also it is about power and power structures and where I fit in with those, where I derive my own power from and how it is projected into the world, and how others perceive it. Also whether I have the courage to say what I know, value what I know and what I believe and what my ‘freakish intuition‘(as it has been called) tells me, and stand up to the inevitable slings and arrows that this seems to attract. I work with a lot of very powerful people many of whom are either stern paternal dictators or whom (perhaps worse) overpower and manipulate by ‘charm’ and sheer force of personality. It’s this kind of abuse and manipulation of power that I am finding more and more difficult to deal with. In particular it leaves very little room for others to grow and reach their own potential and the way I see it the more of us who reach our full potential the better chance we all have for survival. For me personally it is about stepping outside of the reflected glory of others – and the way that my talents sometimes get used (get given over by me) to facilitate that, rather than facilitate my own processes. The questions I am wrestling with are: Where do I belong if I step outside these structures? Who am I, what have I got to offer, do I accept others view of me as being ‘difficult’ when I assert myself when I know from 50 years of life that the intuitions that inform me and are such an integral part of how I ’see’ the world, are almost inevitably ‘right’ (if sometimes ahead of their time and therefore unwelcome)? My role in groups seems often to be the one who says what everyone thinks but no one says and I have been so attacked for it lately that I have begun to tell myself to just shut up and keep to myself – such is the need for some protection and a bit of peace. And yet when I do I feel gagged and incomplete because my natural inclination is to participate and (at least sometimes) lead. And yet if I lead is it inevitable that I become like those powerful people whom I am having such difficulties with now? It’s been a time of more questions than answers!! It’s all been about relationships and the chaos has been so intense that there have been moments when I’ve found myself mediating on, say, the difficulties in my love relationship and I feel the boundaries blurring between that and my work relationships and family relationships. It’s just the same story with different almost interchangeable characters. It has taken Herculean effort to stay grounded and conscious, to try (and often fail) to let go of the need to control or have some idea of outcomes in order to feel secure. I can see now how this kills curiosity and joy and living in the moment - even if the moment truly SUCKS. There’s got to be light at the end of this tunnel – right? I’m Scorpio (Mercury, Mars and Neptune also in Scorpio), Capricorn rising, Saturn is also sitting on my ascendant which potentially gives me a double whammy but I am told my Saturn is well aspected. Virgo moon, conjunct Pluto. Venus also in Virgo.
I don’t know if my contribution is any help but here goes. To say this has been a difficult year would be an understatement. In fact the last several years have been characterised by chaos (internal and external) but this year it all seemed to come into focus. Without going into crazy detail the issue seems to be about walking that dynamic line between the individual and the group. But also it is about power and power structures and where I fit in with those, where I derive my own power from and how it is projected into the world, and how others perceive it. Also whether I have the courage to say what I know, value what I know and what I believe and what my ‘freakish intuition‘(as it has been called) tells me, and stand up to the inevitable slings and arrows that this seems to attract. I work with a lot of very powerful people many of whom are either stern paternal dictators or whom (perhaps worse) overpower and manipulate by ‘charm’ and sheer force of personality. It’s this kind of abuse and manipulation of power that I am finding more and more difficult to deal with. In particular it leaves very little room for others to grow and reach their own potential and the way I see it the more of us who reach our full potential the better chance we all have for survival.
For me personally it is about stepping outside of the reflected glory of others – and the way that my talents sometimes get used (get given over by me) to facilitate that, rather than facilitate my own processes. The questions I am wrestling with are: Where do I belong if I step outside these structures? Who am I, what have I got to offer, do I accept others view of me as being ‘difficult’ when I assert myself when I know from 50 years of life that the intuitions that inform me and are such an integral part of how I ’see’ the world, are almost inevitably ‘right’ (if sometimes ahead of their time and therefore unwelcome)? My role in groups seems often to be the one who says what everyone thinks but no one says and I have been so attacked for it lately that I have begun to tell myself to just shut up and keep to myself – such is the need for some protection and a bit of peace. And yet when I do I feel gagged and incomplete because my natural inclination is to participate and (at least sometimes) lead. And yet if I lead is it inevitable that I become like those powerful people whom I am having such difficulties with now? It’s been a time of more questions than answers!!
It’s all been about relationships and the chaos has been so intense that there have been moments when I’ve found myself mediating on, say, the difficulties in my love relationship and I feel the boundaries blurring between that and my work relationships and family relationships. It’s just the same story with different almost interchangeable characters. It has taken Herculean effort to stay grounded and conscious, to try (and often fail) to let go of the need to control or have some idea of outcomes in order to feel secure. I can see now how this kills curiosity and joy and living in the moment – even if the moment truly SUCKS. There’s got to be light at the end of this tunnel – right?

]]> By: st.brigit http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/2009/11/07/moving-on-with-the-signs-scorpio/comment-page-1/#comment-10442 st.brigit Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:02:46 +0000 http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/?p=19007#comment-10442 As a Sun Sign Scorpio and also with a stellium in Scorpio, I have to agree with Ketchup 1..... Since Feb.2007, my life has taken a shocking downturn...starting with the unexpected death of my only brother ( by suicide ) in Feb 2007. But, in many ways, I have become closer to my own Spirit through these last 2 1/2 years.....Guess that is the paradox of Scorpio.....so much loss and letting go on the way to Transformation and Transcendence. As a Sun Sign Scorpio and also with a stellium in Scorpio, I have to agree with Ketchup 1….. Since Feb.2007, my life has taken a shocking downturn…starting with the unexpected death of my only brother ( by suicide ) in Feb 2007. But, in many ways, I have become closer to my own Spirit through these last 2 1/2 years…..Guess that is the paradox of Scorpio…..so much loss and letting go on the way to Transformation and Transcendence.

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