Comments on: US vs. US: Are You Ready With Your Popcorn? http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/2008/10/15/us-vs-us-are-you-ready-with-your-popcorn/ Astrology, Horoscopes, Daily Astrology Blog, Weekly Horoscopes, Monthly Horoscopes , minor planets, erotic commentary and more Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:36:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: KittyJ http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/2008/10/15/us-vs-us-are-you-ready-with-your-popcorn/comment-page-1/#comment-2150 KittyJ Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:21:15 +0000 http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/?p=3756#comment-2150 "The darkest amongst us are still US. They are our fathers, mothers, our brothers and sisters, our co-workers, neighbors and colleagues. And they are the unexamined, unacknowledged parts of ourselves. To deny them, even when they’re wrong their right to speak and air their views is as un-American as they claim us to be. They have been afraid for a long time. We don’t need to be afraid of them." Bravo, Fe. “The darkest amongst us are still US. They are our fathers, mothers, our brothers and sisters, our co-workers, neighbors and colleagues. And they are the unexamined, unacknowledged parts of ourselves. To deny them, even when they’re wrong their right to speak and air their views is as un-American as they claim us to be. They have been afraid for a long time. We don’t need to be afraid of them.”

Bravo, Fe.

]]> By: Fe Bongolan http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/2008/10/15/us-vs-us-are-you-ready-with-your-popcorn/comment-page-1/#comment-2149 Fe Bongolan Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:49:02 +0000 http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/?p=3756#comment-2149 "Truly, I think freedom of speech is one of the hardest of our freedoms to bear sometimes, and therefore the most profound. We are forced to live with opposing opinions, ideas, and beliefs, and allow them their place. And sometimes, we can only hope, the conscious compassion and kindness we display in our lives will have a greater effect on the world as a whole." Pandora: From your mouth to the ear of the goddess: May a new period of Enlightenment begin! “Truly, I think freedom of speech is one of the hardest of our freedoms to bear sometimes, and therefore the most profound. We are forced to live with opposing opinions, ideas, and beliefs, and allow them their place. And sometimes, we can only hope, the conscious compassion and kindness we display in our lives will have a greater effect on the world as a whole.”

Pandora:

From your mouth to the ear of the goddess: May a new period of Enlightenment begin!

]]> By: Gardener http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/2008/10/15/us-vs-us-are-you-ready-with-your-popcorn/comment-page-1/#comment-2148 Gardener Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:48:30 +0000 http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/?p=3756#comment-2148 Fe: Ditto to the reader comments. Your columns are educational and your message stays on point. I appreciate the political and economic commentary a lot. I also appreciate reading the feedback of various readers too and feel like I learn something from everyone. We aren't really so different from each other, even with roots in different countries and varying opinions. I've already made my voting decision so I'm tuning into Project Runway for some much loved fluff and nonsense. The VP debate was a hoot, but I can't take another hour of those two others. Fe:

Ditto to the reader comments. Your columns are educational and your message stays on point. I appreciate the political and economic commentary a lot. I also appreciate reading the feedback of various readers too and feel like I learn something from everyone. We aren’t really so different from each other, even with roots in different countries and varying opinions.

I’ve already made my voting decision so I’m tuning into Project Runway for some much loved fluff and nonsense. The VP debate was a hoot, but I can’t take another hour of those two others.

]]> By: PandorasWood http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/2008/10/15/us-vs-us-are-you-ready-with-your-popcorn/comment-page-1/#comment-2147 PandorasWood Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:24:04 +0000 http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/?p=3756#comment-2147 Fe- Thanks so much for your thoughtful commentary. What you say about the American psyche-- about those of us who consider ourselves thoughtful, conscious individuals in contrast to those who we consider unconscious-- in other words, US vs US... truly this is wisdom we all need to take in. They are our shadow, ie, "the unexamined, unacknowledged parts of ourselves." They are very much a part of the American psyche, regardless of whether we want to admit it or not. And "to deny them... their right to speak and air their views" is, as you say, un-American. Truly, I think freedom of speech is one of the hardest of our freedoms to bear sometimes, and therefore the most profound. We are forced to live with opposing opinions, ideas, and beliefs, and allow them their place. And sometimes, we can only hope, the conscious compassion and kindness we display in our lives will have a greater effect on the world as a whole. Pandora Fe-
Thanks so much for your thoughtful commentary. What you say about the American psyche– about those of us who consider ourselves thoughtful, conscious individuals in contrast to those who we consider unconscious– in other words, US vs US… truly this is wisdom we all need to take in. They are our shadow, ie, “the unexamined, unacknowledged parts of ourselves.” They are very much a part of the American psyche, regardless of whether we want to admit it or not. And “to deny them… their right to speak and air their views” is, as you say, un-American. Truly, I think freedom of speech is one of the hardest of our freedoms to bear sometimes, and therefore the most profound. We are forced to live with opposing opinions, ideas, and beliefs, and allow them their place. And sometimes, we can only hope, the conscious compassion and kindness we display in our lives will have a greater effect on the world as a whole.

Pandora

]]> By: creatif http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/2008/10/15/us-vs-us-are-you-ready-with-your-popcorn/comment-page-1/#comment-2144 creatif Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:26:37 +0000 http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/?p=3756#comment-2144 Bkoelher - thanks for your post. Just FYI - currently based in UK, Highlands of Scotland and s/he is a she :) ! Best wishes with your support of Obama. Bkoelher – thanks for your post. Just FYI – currently based in UK, Highlands of Scotland and s/he is a she :) ! Best wishes with your support of Obama.

]]> By: bkoehler http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/2008/10/15/us-vs-us-are-you-ready-with-your-popcorn/comment-page-1/#comment-2143 bkoehler Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:17:13 +0000 http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/?p=3756#comment-2143 Fe: "McCain is working with the Rove-kids. . . . " Judging (shame on me) by the reps from the McCain camp, I'd say they didn't learn their lessons well. On TV, they seem so smug, totally depending on the script, and, when caught off-guard by an interviewer, so at a loss. I decided I had to volunteer after learning that I would be calling people who have been told that if their taxes (or fines, etc.) were not paid, or if they wore an Obama button to the polls, they would not be allowed to vote. Many people, apparently, are afraid to vote. Fe:

“McCain is working with the Rove-kids. . . . ”

Judging (shame on me) by the reps from the McCain camp, I’d say they didn’t learn their lessons well. On TV, they seem so smug, totally depending on the script, and, when caught off-guard by an interviewer, so at a loss.

I decided I had to volunteer after learning that I would be calling people who have been told that if their taxes (or fines, etc.) were not paid, or if they wore an Obama button to the polls, they would not be allowed to vote. Many people, apparently, are afraid to vote.

]]> By: Fe Bongolan http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/2008/10/15/us-vs-us-are-you-ready-with-your-popcorn/comment-page-1/#comment-2141 Fe Bongolan Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:25:47 +0000 http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/?p=3756#comment-2141 bkoehler: I think one of the direct results of the mud-slinging politics we've witnessed, at least since Rove's time (roughly when he began with Bush's gubenatorial run in TX), is that it turned voters off from the process of democracy. I think Rove was a master on supplanting ideas and discussion and going totally for amygdala politics - lizard-brain survival-strain, rumor-mongering, smear eating politics. The kind that gets you prurientally involved, like you're a voyeur to something dirty, and you feel disgusted for participating in it afterwards. McCain is working with the Rove-kids (one generation strain away from the Master), and so it makes me wonder whether these kids really absorbed the lessons, or have they just cribbed off the old man's cliff notes. Also we need to give credit for the times we're living in. Reality is falling on idealogues like a ton of bricks. As I've heard said: "Who cares about the Weathermen when my 401(k) just lost $21,000 yesterday?" As for where you and me and all of US are today, I agree--I couldn't be prouder myself. And now, we really have to roll up our sleeves to get this guy elected. I'm glad you're doing the work. In fact, I'd like to do some myself. You go, girl!!! bkoehler:

I think one of the direct results of the mud-slinging politics we’ve witnessed, at least since Rove’s time (roughly when he began with Bush’s gubenatorial run in TX), is that it turned voters off from the process of democracy.

I think Rove was a master on supplanting ideas and discussion and going totally for amygdala politics – lizard-brain survival-strain, rumor-mongering, smear eating politics. The kind that gets you prurientally involved, like you’re a voyeur to something dirty, and you feel disgusted for participating in it afterwards.

McCain is working with the Rove-kids (one generation strain away from the Master), and so it makes me wonder whether these kids really absorbed the lessons, or have they just cribbed off the old man’s cliff notes. Also we need to give credit for the times we’re living in. Reality is falling on idealogues like a ton of bricks.

As I’ve heard said: “Who cares about the Weathermen when my 401(k) just lost $21,000 yesterday?”

As for where you and me and all of US are today, I agree–I couldn’t be prouder myself. And now, we really have to roll up our sleeves to get this guy elected. I’m glad you’re doing the work. In fact, I’d like to do some myself. You go, girl!!!

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